Apple Engineering Leader Handling 5G Efforts Leaves Company

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Rubén Caballero, a hardware engineering executive at Apple who worked with suppliers on modem hardware, recently left the company, reports The Information.

    Caballero's departure comes just after Apple settled its lawsuit with Qualcomm and inked a deal that will see Qualcomm supplying chips for future Apple devices, including the 5G chips Apple will need for its 2020 iPhones.


    Caballero joined Apple back in 2005, and his name has been included on hundreds of Apple patents related to wireless technologies. Caballero is a well-known part of Apple's antenna engineering group, gaining public recognition following the "Antennagate" situation that impacted the iPhone 4.

    A person familiar with Caballero's work at Apple told The Information that he had been responsible for "leading Apple's charge into 5G." Caballero's email address is no longer valid, his phone number is no longer active, and he does not appear in Apple's internal directory.

    There is no word on why Caballero left the company, but Apple has been restructuring some of its chip teams. Apple's modem engineering efforts were put under chipmaking chief Johny Srouji back in February. Caballero and Apple both declined to comment on his departure.

    Apple is planning to release its first 5G iPhone in 2020 and while the launch of the device is still more than a year away, Apple is already working on the future iPhone and ironing out technical details.

    Apple will use Qualcomm chips for its first 5G iPhones, and may also be planning to source some chips from Samsung. In the future, Apple is planning to use its own custom-designed modem chips, but Apple-designed modems won't be ready for "another few years."

    Article Link: Apple Engineering Leader Handling 5G Efforts Leaves Company
  2. markfc macrumors 6502a


    Sep 18, 2006
    Prestatyn, Wales, UK
  3. Blackstick macrumors 6502a


    Aug 11, 2014
    Sunny South Florida
    I try not to read the tea leaves... he's been there 13 years as an executive, I made tens of thousands just with average, retail Mac Genius ESPP... this dude could buy an island with his grants ... if he's in his 50s he has 20-30 good years of health left, I'd use them.
  4. coolfactor macrumors 601

    Jul 29, 2002
    Vancouver, BC CANADA
    This 5G modem project is sure stirring the pot. I wonder what Qualcomm's secret recipe is?
  5. DVNIEL macrumors 6502a


    Oct 28, 2003
  6. JPack macrumors 601


    Mar 27, 2017
    Probably left for Qualcomm to get a bigger paycheck. Some engineers also prefer to work for companies more geared towards pure R&D. Now that Qualcomm has secured income from Apple, they're probably in an even better position to poach engineers.
  7. farewelwilliams macrumors 68020

    Jun 18, 2014
    apple decided to invest in low satellite orbits to compete against 5g...
    ...only half kidding
  8. boast macrumors 65816


    Nov 12, 2007
    Phoenix, USA
    But has he recently been getting his hands dirty with actual design work or just hosting meetings?
  9. JPack macrumors 601


    Mar 27, 2017
    Wouldn't even get past the preliminary review by the FTC and DOJ.
  10. Cosmosent macrumors 6502a

    Apr 20, 2016
    La Jolla, CA
    RE: "In the future, Apple is planning to use its own custom-designed modem chips,

    I highly doubt it !

    It would be a total waste of Engineering resources !
  11. hermes16 macrumors member

    Jan 17, 2019
  12. melgross macrumors 6502

    Jan 23, 2004
    New York City
    Remember that Apple just hired Intel’s chief of 5G design. Did they do that because Caballero was leaving, or did Caballero leave because they hired that guy?
  13. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    #13 that’s a big loss. I wonder why he left.
  14. mikethemartian macrumors 6502a

    Jan 5, 2017
    Melbourne, FL
    Not to mention that would require Apple to become an industry vendor.
  15. Baymowe335 macrumors 601

    Oct 6, 2017
    Laughing at all the people who think the only reason to leave is you're fed up.
  16. AngerDanger macrumors 601


    Dec 9, 2008
    Yes, yes, this news pleases Srouji… less competition… m–more power!

    Johny Srouji Apple Processor Death Stare.gif
  17. cfurlin macrumors 6502


    Jun 14, 2011
    New faces can spark more diversity and more diversity can spark innovation. It's good to clean house once in a while.

    No where does it say these people are leaving completely of their own choice. The writing on the wall could be, "we need new blood" and they're getting out before they don't have a choice. Nothing wrong with that.

    No one is irreplaceable, regardless of talent or level.
  18. FFR Suspended


    Nov 4, 2007
  19. hermes16 macrumors member

    Jan 17, 2019
    it's just an observation, not like the rats are leaving the sinking ship.
  20. Bonte macrumors 6502a


    Jul 1, 2002
    Bruges, Belgium
  21. CWallace, Apr 29, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2019

    CWallace macrumors 603


    Aug 17, 2007
    Seattle, WA
    Not in the least. Making a modem optimized for iOS devices will likely bring the performance benefits that making an ARM chip optimized for iOS devices (A-Series) has done.

    Complicates the supply chain. Also, what happens should other country's governments start to view Huawei with the same distrust as the US Government does and propose either import bans or their consumers express a distaste for Huawei tech in their products and eschew them?


    As for Rubén Caballero's departure, in February Apple placed Johny Srouji (SVP of Hardware Technologies) in charge of modem development, possibly coinciding with the hire of Umashankar Thyagarajan from Intel.

    So perhaps Rubén announced his intent to leave Apple, triggering the personnel movements. Or perhaps Apple decided they needed someone else in charge of modem development and sidelined Rubén in favor of securing Umashankar.
  22. MoreRumors? macrumors 6502a

    Feb 28, 2018
    Tim's eyeglass lens
    If Apple was planning on making their own modem, I would think retaining Caballero is important. However, there must be something going on behind the scenes and since both Apple and Caballero declined to comment.
  23. Tivoli_ macrumors member

    Dec 14, 2017
    I wonder what the ramifications would be if such an acquisition occurs as Qualcomm supplies chips to competitors making Android smartphones.
  24. DNichter macrumors G3


    Apr 27, 2015
    Philadelphia, PA
    Makes sense. He was likely not thrilled with the Qualcomm deal so Apple replaced him with the Intel guy. All in all, change is good for a company like Apple. I welcome the recent changes.

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