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Count this one as "really should have been in 2.0."

But hey, better late then never.

Indeed. They apparently are taking things really slowly...

Here’s hoping for a signature for each mail account and not one signature for all.

This inconvenience was one reason why I returned to blackberry as well as the inability to delete all prior emails like BB

I'll be really enjoying the addition of this feature... I use a large number of e-mail accounts.

Mark all as read would still be nice, but I think at this point Apple will never add that feature. :rolleyes:

The omission makes you scratch your head. I wonder if many just aren't clamoring for it in apple's feedback

I've used multiple email clients on various operating systems, and although most of Apple Mail features are great, the Thread feature is implemented poorly.

Unlike *true* threads, apple mail creates threads based on the subject line alone, which:

  1. Any message in the thread that has had it's subject line changed no longer shows in the thread.
  2. Any message that's *not* in the thread, but happens to have the same subject line, becomes part of the thread.

Use GMail instead, it's pretty much the best mail client out there.

Interesting. that does seem like a bad way to implement threading
 
No mention of being able to sync Contacts with Apple's own Snow Leopard Server OS. This absent ability appears in Apples promotional literature, but currently there is no way to sync either wirelessly or via iTunes sync.

The world may run on Microsoft, but Apple needs internal interoperability if they are ever to be considered serious for business use.
 
I was hoping we could finally add film roll attachments to e-mails within the Mail app, instead of having to go to Photos first and then sending an e-mail from there.
There are many times when you are writing an e-mail, and don't think to include an attachment until after it's written - but then you're not able to, and have to cancel and navigate out. It's really bonkers if we still have to do it this way in 4.0...

Umm.. You can do this already. If you're in the middle of typing a message just hit the home button while you're still in your email. Then go to Photos and hit the little forward arrow in the lower left of the screen to select multiple photos and then select copy. Then just go back into email and paste. The email you've been typing is still there and you just added your pics. You can also copy and paste them one by one by touch-holding to copy each but that's no fun...

Yes, of course I'm aware you can do this. You can also copy your text before leaving Mail, then go to Photos and hit the forward arrow, select the photos you want, and hit Share/E-Mail (which saves a step of having to go back into Mail again). However, as my post above stated, it's lame that you have to navigate out of Mail at all if you just want to add an attachment to an e-mail after you've written something. There should be a way to add attachments in the Mail app, the way you can add them in Messages!
 
Anything about Task or To Do sync with Exchange??

Was there anything pointing to task or to do? This is some basic stuff that should have been covered by Apple in iPhone OS 1.0. I mean, even the first palms had a functioning to do list.
 
Was there anything pointing to task or to do? This is some basic stuff that should have been covered by Apple in iPhone OS 1.0. I mean, even the first palms had a functioning to do list.

Why is it that everyone thinks their favorite little pet feature "should have been in iPhone OS 1.0"?

Each such feature clearly should not have been in iPhone OS 1.0 - if Palm was so smart, their stock target wouldn't be $0 right now.
 
search

so in the presentation unfortunately there was no mention of a better search
damn

this sucks

i have +1000 contact in my address book
i need to be able to search store, people by any field (job , note, department, phone number, etc)
how in the hell apple still doesnt get it that this is a critical feature for people that work?

i am so angry
and no i dont want to do it with a different app

damn i m gonna drop my iphone and buy a droid tomorrow

lol
never
still angry though
 
Why is it that everyone thinks their favorite little pet feature "should have been in iPhone OS 1.0"?

Each such feature clearly should not have been in iPhone OS 1.0 - if Palm was so smart, their stock target wouldn't be $0 right now.

come on really?
to do is not a basic and important function?
you really have nothing to do or remember during a day?
cant believe it
this is really a simple feature that is important for many users
fortunately there are killing apps to do
the problem is i would love to see it implemented by apple inside calendar
 
so in the presentation unfortunately there was no mention of a better search
damn

this sucks

i have +1000 contact in my address book
i need to be able to search store, people by any field (job , note, department, phone number, etc)
how in the hell apple still doesnt get it that this is a critical feature for people that work?

i am so angry
and no i dont want to do it with a different app

damn i m gonna drop my iphone and buy a droid tomorrow

lol
never
still angry though

Well then you have no one to blame for your predicament but yourself, do you?
 
You have a way to do what you want, you just refuse to use it.

it is not that i refuse it
i do it
the problem is

i am at the phone, someone ask me an info
i need to search for a contact in my address book
i cant remember the name, so i need to search maybe the job title, or
now instead of being able to do it quickly in address book that is inside the call screen i have to quit phone app, open the search app, which is slow, start running a search on the job title which is also slow to set up
while the client i am at the phone with is still waiting
you see why it does not make sense?

i mean seriously, you cant tell me that having a customizable address book like the one in the iphone it makes sense if they do not give you the way to search on each field you type in
seriously this is flawed, especially cause is such a simple and basic function

i love apple and i have almost every product they make, but that does not mean apple is perfect
this is just a shortcoming,
 
As I pointed out, you already acknowledge that you can do exactly what you want using third party software, and you refuse to do so, and instead insist that the feature be implemented by Apple. If you weren't so stubborn, you could get your work done with third party software, and hence you have no one to blame but yourself.

it is not that i refuse it
i do it
the problem is

i am at the phone, someone ask me an info
i need to search for a contact in my address book
i cant remember the name, so i need to search maybe the job title, or
now instead of being able to do it quickly in address book that is inside the call screen i have to quit phone app, open the search app, which is slow, start running a search on the job title which is also slow to set up
while the client i am at the phone with is still waiting
you see why it does not make sense?

i mean seriously, you cant tell me that having a customizable address book like the one in the iphone it makes sense if they do not give you the way to search on each field you type in
seriously this is flawed, especially cause is such a simple and basic function

i love apple and i have almost every product they make, but that does not mean apple is perfect
this is just a shortcoming,
 
As I pointed out, you already acknowledge that you can do exactly what you want using third party software, and you refuse to do so, and instead insist that the feature be implemented by Apple. If you weren't so stubborn, you could get your work done with third party software, and hence you have no one to blame but yourself.

i guess you dont read what i write
since as i pointed out i said i already do it with 3rd party app, but it is much slower and requires too many steps.
i m not stubborn, wake up, i m just frustrated that the lack of such a simple and basic function makes me waste time and holds longer clients at the phone
not sure what your problem is, i just find unreasonable that apple is implementing search on the web with spotlight in the iphone but still does not allow spotlight to search every damn field of the most important app for someone that works
go figure
 
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I was hoping we could finally add film roll attachments to e-mails within the Mail app, instead of having to go to Photos first and then sending an e-mail from there.
There are many times when you are writing an e-mail, and don't think to include an attachment until after it's written - but then you're not able to, and have to cancel and navigate out. It's really bonkers if we still have to do it this way in 4.0...

you dont have to cancel you can just go to your film roll, "copy" pics, then go back to your email and paste them in... i believe...
 
Why is it that everyone thinks their favorite little pet feature "should have been in iPhone OS 1.0"?

Each such feature clearly should not have been in iPhone OS 1.0 - if Palm was so smart, their stock target wouldn't be $0 right now.

Why shouldn't they have been in iPhone OS 1, 2, or 3? Would their inclusion have hampered the OS? I think saying that Apple didn't deem a feature worthy of inclusion and saying that it SHOULDN'T have been included are two very different things.
 
i guess you dont read what i write

Sure I do. You wrote this:

...
i am so angry
and no i dont want to do it with a different app

I am only responding to what you, yourself, wrote.


Why shouldn't they have been in iPhone OS 1, 2, or 3? Would their inclusion have hampered the OS? I think saying that Apple didn't deem a feature worthy of inclusion and saying that it SHOULDN'T have been included are two very different things.

Because resources (time, manpower, etc.) are finite. Apple had the time and resources to release OS 1 (and 2, and 3) with the features that were incorporated into those OS's. They could have made different choices, but those choices would have resulted in being unable to do the other things they did. There's no such thing as a free lunch. So Apple picked, for each release, a set of features. They have exceeded everyone's wildest predictions in sales. I think they made the right choices (because, after all, their goal is to make money, not to meet some academic definition of a proper set of features).


What a stupid comment.

How so? The guy demands a feature, then says he knows he can do it with third party apps but refuses to do so. Does he refuse to use facebook because Apple didn't build it in? Does he refuse to listen to music that wasn't preloaded on his phone?
 
ahah right
good job
i wrote this:

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it is not that i refuse it
i do it (which it means i use a 3rd party app, u get it?)
the problem is

i am at the phone, someone ask me an info
i need to search for a contact in my address book
i cant remember the name, so i need to search maybe the job title, or
now instead of being able to do it quickly in address book that is inside the call screen i have to quit phone app, open the search app, which is slow, start running a search on the job title which is also slow to set up
while the client i am at the phone with is still waiting
you see why it does not make sense?

i mean seriously, you cant tell me that having a customizable address book like the one in the iphone it makes sense if they do not give you the way to search on each field you type in
seriously this is flawed, especially cause is such a simple and basic function
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So or you have a reading problem, (which i doubt since the job you do), or you just ignore what i write to prove your point right
continuing to ignore the meaning of my answers will not make you win this argument. since every one else can read what i wrote


and no, regarding choices of OS, if you really think that implementing search in every field in the address book (while they spent a lot of money and resources implementing spotlight on the web search) you are out of your mind
apple has 40 billion cash, and implementing that feat it is definitely not a big deal

it is like if in a macbook they give you the keyboard, but dont give you the function to capitalize letters.
Now everytime you need to capitalize a letter you need to open a 3rd party app and waste time doing a function that is strictly connected to a keyboard and typing (like search every field in an address book is connected to having an address book, )
now if they did that and people started complaining you still would say, you can do it with a 3rd party app why you complain?

and you are really saying that being able to search every field of the address book is less important of the "compass" app? really?
how many people do you think use address book every day and need to search compared to people using a compass?

what a pita

lol
Sure I do. You wrote this:



I am only responding to what you, yourself, wrote.




Because resources (time, manpower, etc.) are finite. Apple had the time and resources to release OS 1 (and 2, and 3) with the features that were incorporated into those OS's. They could have made different choices, but those choices would have resulted in being unable to do the other things they did. There's no such thing as a free lunch. So Apple picked, for each release, a set of features. They have exceeded everyone's wildest predictions in sales. I think they made the right choices (because, after all, their goal is to make money, not to meet some academic definition of a proper set of features).




How so? The guy demands a feature, then says he knows he can do it with third party apps but refuses to do so. Does he refuse to use facebook because Apple didn't build it in? Does he refuse to listen to music that wasn't preloaded on his phone?
 
you dont have to cancel you can just go to your film roll, "copy" pics, then go back to your email and paste them in... i believe...

Yes...but again, it seems kind of silly that Apple forces you to leave the app, go to another one, and then come back to the app in order to add an attachment to an already-written e-mail - doesn't it? :rolleyes:

I've written to Apple's feedback page requesting for them to please add a way to add attachments to e-mails, the way you can currently add them to MMS messages. Hope they include this function soon!
 
What about S/MIME?
Exactly.
I am with you - if you have personal and work email on one device, you probably don't want a unified inbox. But my understanding is that they also have fast inbox switching, which is the solution I've been asking for. So I think it's a case where they actually gave everyone what they want.
They do. Fast inbox switching was mentioned in the keynote.
As long as the universal stuff is optional and not required.
Why people assume it could possibly be forced is beyond me :rolleyes:.
I am just now watching the video and thought the EXACT same thing. No GMail love. I hope it's still included in OS4, but I fear it wont be.
GMail is like any other email. They support IMAP and Exchange’s proprietary protocols (on the Apps side at least). As far as I know there is no such thing as GMail (protocol). If anything is missing it’s just a glorified setup screen.
 
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