Apple Executive Hints at Apple Silicon Mac Pro and Ongoing Focus on Apple Watch Battery Life

[Boil]

The Max is ×2 Pro chips fused together.

No...

The Ultra is ×2 Max chips fused together.

Yes...

Apple could install ×2 Ultra chips into the new Mac Pro without fusing them together.

Johny Srouji already told us why that won't work in the M1 Ultra debut...

Everything is "double its predecessor".

No...

 

[257Loner]

No...

I made a correction in my post.

Johny Srouji already told us why that won't work in the M1 Ultra debut...

I'll need a quote to know what he said.

No...

Kinda vague... If you were a little more loquacious and vividly verbose, then from the wealth of your words I could identify your ideas emanating from your ideations.

 

[Boil]

The Max is double the Pro chip's logic.
The Ultra is 2 Max chips fused together.
Apple could install 2 Ultra chips into the new Mac Pro.

Everything is "double its predecessor".

I made a correction in my post.

The M1 Max is not "double the Pro chip's logic", the M1 Max has more GPU cores & Media Engines than the M1 Pro but the same number of CPU cores (looking at the full dies, not the binned variants)...

I'll need a quote to know what he said.

Kinda vague... If you were a little more loquacious and vividly verbose, then from the wealth of your words I could identify your ideas emanating from your ideations.

No, meaning everything is not "double its predecessor"...

 

[falkon-engine]

1. Two reasons, I can think of...
All M2 Max SoCs are being used for MacBook Pros.
Apple has an update schedule. The Studio isn't even a year old yet. And they may plan to skip a generation since, these are lower selling systems. So no M2, have to wait for M3.

2. Product differentiation... a mini with a Max is a Studio.

But if you think about it, you have laptops with M2 Max chips that outperform a more expensive 'Studio' that is unfornately stuck on last generation silicon. Yeah there's the M1 Ultra but even it has lower single core performance than M2 Pro and M2 Max. And the M2 Max has certain accelerators that the M1 Max/Ultra doesn't have.

So if faced with the decision in 2023 of purchasing a M2 Max laptop vs an M1 Max Studio, why purchase the M1 Max Studio? The return on investment is questionable given it's inferior performance. It needs to be updated.

Second, the Mini allegedly has a better cooling system than the 14" Macbook Pro... so why put a M2 Max in the 14" but not the Mini? There are certainly customers who would buy a M2 Max Mini...

Just seems to me like Apple hasn't fully figured out its cadence of updates for the Mac... seems a bit disjointed and staggered. If you look at the iPhone, the entire line is updated all at once. Every september. iPad Pro line recieves updates all at once. But Mac is weird. Still no update to the M1 iMac. No iMac Pro. The studio is still stuck on last generation silicon, even though studio customers would benefit just as much as 'pro' laptop customers from a m2 max chip. No Apple Silicon Mac Pro in sight.

The cadence of Mac Silicon is just a bit weird, in my very humble opinion. Hopefully 3nm changes all that.

 

[singhs.apps]

Going forward, I expect Apple will mirror the MacBook/Pro chips in the ‘mini/studio’ headless Mac stack.
Of course only the Studio may feature an ultra for the time being, being unconstrained by battery requirements of a MacBook.

It’s already a decent ‘desktop’ consideration for many folks who don’t need a Mac Pro, but also don’t fancy the mobile and iMac lineup.

 

[257Loner]

Johny Srouji already told us why that won't work in the M1 Ultra debut...

Thank you for providing that quote from that video. I appreciate your research. However, this only makes me more worried. If no "Extreme" chip is coming, and Johny Srouji says in the video that 2 chips on a motherboard isn't the best solution, then what is going to differentiate the Mac Pro with a single Ultra chip from the Mac Studio with a single Ultra chip?

 

[Boil]

Thank you for providing that quote from that video. I appreciate your research. However, this only makes me more worried. If no "Extreme" chip is coming, and Johny Srouji says in the video that 2 chips on a motherboard isn't the best solution, then what is going to differentiate the Mac Pro with a single Ultra chip from the Mac Studio with a single Ultra chip?

For those who need them, PCIe slots...

 

[257Loner]

For those who need them, PCIe slots...

But that's not a Mac Pro. That's a Mac Studio with PCIe slots...

 

[tipoo]

Decades ago other watch companies solved the problem by using self winding. I wonder if Apple is looking at that technology? It would also be good for the phones.

The amount of power generated from self winding mechanical movements is quite miniscule compared to compute. It takes far less power to move little hands.