Apple Executive Says Users Who Want App Sideloading Already Have That Option With Other Platforms

[Tavicu]

I honestly don’t understand the problem. Why not simply allow sideloading apps if enabled in System settings buried under several popups and warnings about possible consequences when enabling that option? Most people would probably leave the sideloading option disabled and the other ones probably know what they are doing and accept possible consequences or privacy violations.

Because most of the people click “i agree” without even reading! So apps will ask you to do these steps to install their app and most of the users will do that without thinking or reading!

Then when problems will start guess who they are going to blame … not XXXCasino for sure!

 

[muadibe]

Perfect response.

 

[dabi]

I want the best of the two worlds tho. I want a platform with great hardware, high quality apps and UI fluidity like iOS, combined with the openness and freedom of Android. Currently both OSes are compromises in some way for my use cases.

 

[Crash0veride]

Because most of the people click “i agree” without even reading! So apps will ask you to do these steps to install their app and most of the users will do that without thinking or reading!

Then when problems will start guess who they are going to blame … not XXXCasino for sure!

I guess I just consider that technological darwinism

If you're following random instruction to toggle security settings on your phone and clicking through warnings around dangers to install XXXCasino, you're going to have other problems than side-loading risking your security.

 

[Lolhaxsor]

I have been an apple user for years and a reader of Mac rumours for the same time. This is my first time posting because I feel so strongly on the subject.
I have files that I need access via p2p networks/torrents apple hasn’t allowed this on iOS, however on Mac OS this is allowed. I have had to use a sideload method to be able to access these files apple are slowly making this an impossible task that would be simple on any other device.also I want to point out sideloading is not just an issue of security it’s also about who owns the device I am the owner of the device I should be able to make the decision on what applications I can install on my device. Anyone siting sideloading will compromise their iPhones security is simply misunderstanding what this is actually about. Honestly Microsoft would of never got away with this I’m looking forward to the European digital marketing act that will make it mandatory to allow 3rd party apps, if not I will switch to android…

 

[fwmireault]

Such bs macOS has been doing fine for years. This is just fear mongering to protect their billion dollar cash cow.

And Federighi has been very clear that it isn’t good for macOS either. I don’t think it would be a good idea to shut down side loading apps on macOS, but that doesn’t mean that it’s a good idea to authorize it on mobile platforms either.

 

[mazz0]

I think he's entirely right. Especially this point, which I've been making myself:

"Sideloading in this case is actually eliminating choice,"

 

[69Mustang]

He noted that the data on iPhone is "more enticing" to a potential attacker compared to information on the Mac.

Bruh, c'mon. People aren't really stupid enough to buy this bs. It's not more enticing because, more often than not it's the exact same information. Information that is on the phone, the watch, ipad, laptop, desktop... it's one of the marketed advantages of the Apple ecosystem.

 

[FightTheFuture]

Such bs macOS has been doing fine for years. This is just fear mongering to protect their billion dollar cash cow.

It’s not fine. Spread of malware on macs continue to grow each year.

 

[mazz0]

Such bs macOS has been doing fine for years. This is just fear mongering to protect their billion dollar cash cow.

Has MacOS been doing fine? I think you'd need to back up that claim with figures showing how many Macs are infected with malware and how many iOS devices are. It'd be interesting to throw in Android and Windows too.

 

[MauiPa]

Seriously better quote than the click baiting trollish headline of the article. "Apple believes side loading is a poor outcome, Android offers a choice". Perhaps? Nowhere did the executive say F*&^You to its customers.

 

[LordVic]

That killed Blackberry and I think not adapting to the touch screen quick enough.

Oh, they adapted to touchscreens really fast.

they just were hacked on and didn't work great with the OS at the time. You could get touchscreen black berries running OS6

it was telling all it's users "buy our devices now, even though every single one will be obsoleted, and need to be replaced in full in 1-2 years. but it's sooon! So buy our OS6/7 devices now and than BB10 forced upgrade later!

than when BB10 took an additional year and didn't support anything newer than Android 2.3 apps, it was lights out

BB10 itself was actually fantastic OS

 

[MauiPa]

Such bs macOS has been doing fine for years. This is just fear mongering to protect their billion dollar cash cow.

You missed the part in the article and elsewhere that says malware on the Mac is at unacceptable levels? Is that doing fine for you?

 

[Unregistered 4U]

More PR from a company trying to keep their cash cow going. Apple has done a great job marketing that they are looking out for users privacy over the last 2-3 years. Some of it’s true. A lot is just marketing.

Really, it’s 100% marketing. Even if it’s true, if they’re telling you about it, they’re marketing it.

 

[Syk]

I honestly don’t understand the problem. Why not simply allow sideloading apps if enabled in System settings buried under several popups and warnings about possible consequences when enabling that option? Most people would probably leave the sideloading option disabled and the other ones probably know what they are doing and accept possible consequences or privacy violations.

Because even with all those warnings people are going to turn it on anyway and if something happens to their or more than likely their kids phone they're going to run off and blame Apple.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

I think he is speaking to wrong crowd. The users do not care about side-loading as much as developers. He can talk about privacy and security all day, but that is not going to change the majority of developer opinions to side load their apps like on a Mac or pc or Android or other browser equipped devices.

Majority of developers don’t care either. The vast majority is just quietly making money and not rocking the boat

 

[MauiPa]

I honestly don’t understand the problem. Why not simply allow sideloading apps if enabled in System settings buried under several popups and warnings about possible consequences when enabling that option? Most people would probably leave the sideloading option disabled and the other ones probably know what they are doing and accept possible consequences or privacy violations.

But, WHY? And you honestly don't think that a hack attack by a sleazoid developer couldn't get into the findMy network, locations database, contacts list, messages, ......... and compromise privacy? tsk, tsk, tsk

 

[more fps]

Even if they do allow side loading it wouldn’t be force upon on those that don’t want it. So I don’t get why those people are crying about lol

 

[Unregistered 4U]

if not I will switch to android…

Which, to me, seems like the best situation. I know if I NEEDED a phone to do a thing and it didn’t do it, I’d keep looking until I found a phone that did. Settling for anything less wouldn’t even be an option if it was a real need.

 

[sehns]

Looking at these comments, it's as if people feel like if Sideloading was enabled on their phone, they wouldn't have a choice to use it or not. It would be somehow forced onto them. As if somehow, if Sideloading was available, and they didn't use it, their phone would be magically less secure. Not very smart people.

 

[ian87w]

It's that simple!

It actually is. And that's real choice. You want open, go Android. You want walled garden, go iOS. Very simple.
Making one to be like the other is removing choice. I'm baffled seeing how many people wanting less choice.

 

[MauiPa]

So apple is who is selling "pro" devices to their customers, is saying that their customers stupid?

And why is this not secure on an iOS device, but on macOS we are doing this since forever???

You miss the part about malware on the Mac? And no, Apple is not saying their customers are stupid, never has and never will

 

[Canezmd]

"More choice is less choice"... right.... Up is down, red is green, cold is hot... so ridiculous. If you don't want to side load, then don't side load.

 

[ksgant]

I agree with him. If you’re willing to trade security for flexibility, than Android is more for you.

I don’t want Apple to make The iPhone worse to please a noisy minority. And especially not to get the CEO Of Epic another Lamborghini.

A noisy minority that, let's face it, probably doesn't even use Apple products. I've noticed over the past few decades the ones that whine the most are people that don't even use Macs/iOS. Not all, mind you. But some are just ridiculous.

 

[Canezmd]

It actually is. And that's real choice. You want open, go Android. You want walled garden, go iOS. Very simple.
Making one to be like the other is removing choice. I'm baffled seeing how many people wanting less choice.

Right... so 2 choices is "real choice"... such a free market.