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You point would have been better made if you didn't lead with two relatively superficial things... MagSafe and Lighted Apple Logo?! That's why you think Apple no longer makes a good product? Really? Sure I liked MagSafe, but its not why I bought the laptop. And the light? never saw it lol. I tend to look at the front of my screen when working, not the back.

Then you go to ports. Yep, transition to TB3 was painful and costly, but now that I have made it, makes my life so much easier. You have to let go of your legacy cables and just buy the appropriate new ones. Shrugs. Progress costs. And sure I prefer 4 TB3 ports over 2, but again, hubs fix that issue when I need to. I don't often need to when traveling, and on my desk, not a big deal at all.

I agree there does seem to be more issues with bugs than one would expect or hope. But when I think back on the glory days of 'it just works' I realize our expectations were really really low. We got excited if we plugged in a printer and it worked. Nowadays we want seamless integration of not just peripherals but between 4 separate devices with widely different mechanics, my Apple Watch, my iPhone, my Mac, and my iPads... and I guess we can throw iPods into there as well. In simplifying our lives, the underlying technology has become much more complex. I am amazed at what does work. Not making excuses, just acknowledging reality. I could have improved reliability or increased innovation, but not both at the same time. Thats just not realistic. The reliability plays catch up.

or you can scream about someone taking away your nightlight.

You missed my point, probably my fault. But the issue is that Apple macOS devices just don't stand out any more for any reason.
 
I'll never forget Craig Federighi's failed FACE ID demo. It speaks a lot. And STILL Apple sells no COVID capable cell phone. Steve Jobs definitely would have been in favor of Apple Silicon no doubt and even outsourcing it to non-American workers. Globalists are like that and Steve Jobs was in the forefront of that sadly. :(
What's wrong with globalism? How do you think America became the superpower it is today? Don't let patriotism blind you to the virtues of globalism. Outsourcing jobs that no Americans want while lowering costs for consumers for products that consumers do want benefits everyone. It lifts people in developing countries out of poverty and consumers in developed countries can get the latest whiz bang products at reasonable prices.

Fast forward 10 years, and those people that have been lifted out of poverty can afford to buy Apple products which creates more jobs at Apple here in the states and elsewhere. Again, win-win.

That said, I agree about touch ID... it was a big oversight to not include it in iPhone 12. They could have used the same tech in iPad Air.
 
"how many tasks you can finish on a single battery life," is not my burning question.

My burning question is how well will Apple computers virtualise Windows 10? I rather like having a Windows VM on my MacBook, because it's required for work. A dedicated PC for Windows would be an inconvenience.
Wrong market. Also, would your work not prefer you not use an unapproved system for security?
 
It's pretty simple. Spend your money elsewhere.

The rest of the world is going to move on.
I actually don't miss MagSafe, and I love the move to USB-C ports. It enabled me to buy a generic travel power brick with a bunch of standard USB ports on it, so when I travel, I no longer need to carry all kinds of other things with me.

I also don't miss the lighted Apple logo. What was so great about it?

What are you using these days?
 
"how many tasks you can finish on a single battery life," is not my burning question.

My burning question is how well will Apple computers virtualise Windows 10? I rather like having a Windows VM on my MacBook, because it's required for work. A dedicated PC for Windows would be an inconvenience.
Read the Daring Fireball review. Apparently it runs Windows faster virtualized than on native hardware.
 
Oh man! Just yesterday I said to a friend, nobody says now, that after Jobs died there is no innovation anymore.

And now I read that 🤦‍♂️
 
I actually don't miss MagSafe, and I love the move to USB-C ports. It enabled me to buy a generic travel power brick with a bunch of standard USB ports on it, so when I travel, I no longer need to carry all kinds of other things with me.

I also don't miss the lighted Apple logo. What was so great about it?

What are you using these days?

Personally, I'm typing this reply on a 2017 15" MacBook Pro. It's one of several Apple products I have here, going back years.

But I don't think you were directing this towards me, correct? I wasn't the one who had issue with the loss of MagSafe, or a lighted Apple logo, among other things.
 
Seeing as Microsoft already has Windows for ARM, which they've failed on their own to make into a real thing, I wonder if in fact they might be quite pleased at this. Suddenly, even in virtualisation, there's a much bigger potential marketplace for ARM-Windows systems; enough - if the virtualisation (vmware-style partitioning?) is good enough - to help persuade other devs to build their apps for ARM-Windows too.
It would be nice if Microsoft knuckled down on compiling for ARM, but I gather it's very niche at the moment, e.g. Surface Pro. They've probably got their work cut out dealing with all manner of device drivers that have been compiled for x86.
 
Wrong market. Also, would your work not prefer you not use an unapproved system for security?
It's a big market. Tons of people run virtualisation software on Macs. My company would prefer to have full control over my hardware, but I don't trust the infosec department to provide a functional development environment! Those guys are always messing things up for everyone.
 
It's a big market. Tons of people run virtualisation software on Macs. My company would prefer to have full control over my hardware, but I don't trust the infosec department to provide a functional development environment! Those guys are always messing things up for everyone.
Understand, I use a lot of VMs (linux not Windows.) I think I mean it's a different ,market that what current AS Macs are targeting and I don't think Windows VMs were something they wanted to hold the release. End of the day it's up to Microsoft to have a Windows Arm that can work on a CM. Linux already does. They mentioned on the reveal that they are looking at virtualization and containers over time. No reason to think we won't see something.

This is same for Windows gaming/ bootcamp complaints. this is not the market of these nor is it even possible right this second. May never be, but some kind of emulation may happen later. Gaming on Mac is also a different story. Streaming and Apple Arcade is what they are looking at. Plus native ported Mobile or cross-platform mobile gaming.

Years ago i bought consoles for those weird cases for gaming and probably will later. Concerning dev workloads I need, AS is a awesome boon for me. Will get a high-end system when they are available.
 
lol. Since the removal of 32bit support, I can perform exactly zero (0) tasks on a single battery charge because 95% of all games in my steam library have become unavailable on my *own* machine.

Great job, Apple. Great job.
 
lol. Since the removal of 32bit support, I can perform exactly zero (0) tasks on a single battery charge because 95% of all games in my steam library have become unavailable on my *own* machine.

Great job, Apple. Great job.

Why is it Apple's fault the games are not 64-bit? After all, Apple did provide developers plenty of time to port their software (whatever it is) from 32 to 64 bit, in order to meet the requirements of Catalina.

Not only that, Apple provided the public with plenty of notice that 32 bit apps would no longer be supported on OSX.
 
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lol. Since the removal of 32bit support, I can perform exactly zero (0) tasks on a single battery charge because 95% of all games in my steam library have become unavailable on my *own* machine.

Great job, Apple. Great job.
They warned for years on that. Companies won't update nor support old games so not a suprise. Bethesda just announced they will not be porting to Apple Silicon for ESO. Again, not a surprise. Gaming on Mac is not the same market as Apple is targeting.

Look for other solutions.
 
What a bunch of bull. Apple is increasing removing the differentiators and making, at least, the macOS line nothing more than a much marketed, hobbled PC. Removed MagSafe. Removed lighted Apple logo from laptops. Removed enough ports so that it cannot connect to any standard hardware. Removed reliability. Removed software flexibility. Etc.

Apple has become the Microsoft of the 90s in both hardware and software.
Removing the differentiators? That’s hilarious! Apple’s M1 silicon differentiates Macs immensely from AMD/Intel PCs, and that will only continue as Apple adds more specialized coprocessors.

For instance the M1 has an 11 trillion ops/sec machine learning accelerator. What will developers do with it? You’ll see apps that do things that simply can’t be built on a generic AMD/Intel machine.

But yeah, the lighted logo is a tough loss. FireWire was too, but somehow we survived lol.
 
"how many tasks you can finish on a single battery life," is not my burning question.

My burning question is how well will Apple computers virtualise Windows 10? I rather like having a Windows VM on my MacBook, because it's required for work. A dedicated PC for Windows would be an inconvenience.
The transition to Apple silicon will not be equally beneficial for all of Apple’s customers, and for some it might be a dealbreaker.

That said, if there’s enough demand, you might see a solution from the likes of VMware but I wouldn’t hold my breath. Emulation is a lot different from virtualization.
 
The transition to Apple silicon will not be equally beneficial for all of Apple’s customers, and for some it might be a dealbreaker.

That said, if there’s enough demand, you might see a solution from the likes of VMware but I wouldn’t hold my breath. Emulation is a lot different from virtualization.
You might seee a solution to virtualize Windows Arm, yes. Emulation is possible simular to how Linux KVM works if they choose to do so. Depends on the need and desire of the company to support it.
 
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“....it will be about how many tasks you can finish on a single battery life..”
Maybe true for portable devices.... but for desktops that is not the most important consideration!!!!
 
While not on the same scale perhaps as transition x86 to Arm, the next move by Apple will be the cellular chips from Qualcomm to their own. It’s the last major component that I can think of that they would really be keen to move to an in house design.
 
Playing around my son's M1 MBA has me blown away. MUCH MUCH more responsive and much cooler than my wife's 2020 i5 MBA while getting superior battery life with an integrated GPU that is actually good.

I haven't been blown away in a CPU performance leap like this since Core2Duo that killed pretty much everything in the market 14 or so years ago.

Yes, AMD is close, but consuming 5X the power to get there.

I'm definitely a believer. I'm pretty sure Apple is going to wow us again with the higher end M1 variants with decent I/O and even better GPU.
Core2Duo was good. I’m still using one daily. Plan to replace with M1.
 
Magsafe is pretty pointless when a laptop can run a full day (or even more) under full load.

Lighted logo -> tacky 90s gimmick only made possible as a sideeffect of crappy backlighting, hard pass.
While I agree with the overall sentiment, not even an M1 machine will operate at full load for a full day. I’d guess maybe five hours max. But 20 hours of video? Sure, but the screen is probably drawing a lot more power than an M1 at the 5% (guess) utilization it takes to stream video.
 
Steves pradigm was however also: "It just works". The M1 is a fine piece of hardware. But the fact that you can reinstall the OS without errors is truly disappointing. Crazy how Apple messed up this time so harshly. Is it quality problems due to work from home ?
 
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