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Apple Expands Apple TV Gift Card Offer to More Countries
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I'm thinking that for that to work, they'd have to make it so that you log into the Apple TV every time you wake it up, so they know who to count the Screen Time against, since the Apple TV wouldn't know which family member is using it otherwise. Of course, the login screen could be enabled only in the case where both conditions obtain: there are multiple users set up and Screen Time is enabled.
And it would need some sort of password/PIN prompt (so the kid can't say, "yep, I'm daddy"), unless they put TouchID on the remote. Hmm, how do you securely input a PIN on the TV screen while someone else is in the room? They're looking at literally the same UI that you are. Do you have the parent force the kids to avert their gaze (and not peek), or do you require the PIN to be input via an iPhone/iPad? (That'd be secure, but require tie-in devices.)
As the only one using my Apple TV, I might be curious to see the Screen Time numbers (mostly to get the "more/less than last week" weekly messages), but have no need to (and a strong desire not to have to) log into my Apple TV every time it wakes up. Moreover, sometimes I wake my Apple TV by asking Siri (via a HomePod mini) to wake it up as I walk into the room (so the TV, Apple TV, and sound bar are all ready to go before I even sit down) - doing that with a login requirement would be problematic.
Hmm, this also raises the question - if you've got 2-3 kids, how do you handle when more than one kid is watching at the same time? Both in terms of what content is allowed (do you just go with whoever logged in, or do you make all the kids log in and then use the most restrictive content rating, and how do you enforce them all logging in), and whose time allotment you "charge" the Screen Time against.
Apple doesn't usually keep a ton of stock on hand. That's part of the whole Just-in-Time manufacturing thing - keep the factory-to-store-shelves pipeline short so you don't have a ton of money tied up in unsold inventory. Caches happen, of course, but ending up with a several month stock of devices on hand is something they've traditionally tried to avoid doing.
Perfect thanks I see that now, also saw it when I added it to the cart.
Yeah, I’d rather money off too but these guys know what they are doing that’s for sure.
So "update" means new hardware? When they said "max out the potential," I thought they meant software (at least that's what I was replying to.
More powerful hardware? I'm in! I want an Apple TV Max with 1TB storage.
But they can do that, they just need to decide to do it. It's not like they don't have the money to try.
A few billion to convert some already existing AA games for the people who don't play them on Apple.
Some of the popular ones (not AAA) that never made it to Apple. Give the Apple family the joy of Fall Guys and other "stuff".
And a few big AAA to release exclusively.
I'm not sure how much Apple wants to get into the ultra-violent games that are super powerful though. Even converting Tomb Raider 2013 might be more violent than they want (I could be wrong and AA has more games like this that I'm not aware of).
You want an Apple TV variant that costs $300+. Few people would buy it, unless Apple can show it off, day one, with a number of compelling AAA titles already running on it. That would require Apple to show developers of AAA games a level of support they've previously shied away from - they've sort of reached out a hand to such developers a few times in the past, but then Apple always wanders off, easily distracted by something else. It's frustrating. And it means such developers are likely gun-shy at this point - Apple would have to work really hard to sell them on it, to assure them that this time they really mean it.
With the regular ATV4K being $200, I don't see an ATV Max being much less than $300 (to jump from 64GB to 1TB and add a proper game controller, alongside using a more powerful chip). And $300 would put them head-to-head with the Xbox Series S (which has a metric ton of AAA titles and a positively enormous back catalog available for it), and just $100 shy of the non-disk version of the PS5 (even more powerful and also a ton of AAA titles and back catalog). Apple would have to offer something really compelling, or the market will just see it as an also-ran. And they have that uphill battle with the game developers.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Apple do something like this, too - I really like the Apple ecosystem - but I don't really see it happening; I don't see Apple being willing to put in the necessary effort. I'd love to be proven wrong.
iMessage, FaceTime Audio, Safari, Maps, there is endless possibility for the Apple TV's A8 and A12 chip.
Edit: They could also use continuity camera technology to get full FaceTime calls on a TV. Would be really cool if Apple made the "true apple experience" on the Big Screen.
What kind of a scrub controls device usage from the device itself? You think your kids wont be able to figure out how to disable parental controls from the device itself? Have you not heard of device controls from your router? Literally even ISP routers have PER DEVICE allowed time of use, restricted sites, whitelists and blacklists based on age just to name a few. What a waste of time even replying to such a dumb comment, let alone implementing such a dumb feature on the device itself… smh.
Buy an Apple TV, get the gift card with it…. Now buy another Apple TV with that gift card attached…. You’ll get a discounted Apple TV, and return the first purchase with the gift card you got from the second order. Win, and can confirm it works - they didn’t check the gift card # becausee I hadn’t scratched off the bar code, thus I couldn’t have used the gift card.
Oh, cool, perhaps now that you've gotten all that outrage and disdain for people not as kewl as you out of your system, can you please explain how your router can be configured to allow playing certain movies from your iTunes library when only you are sitting in front of the TV, but not when your kids are sitting in front of the TV, while, of course, letting the kid-appropriate movies play for anyone. All those movies are streaming from Apple's servers, with filenames you'll never see, which are subject to change with no notice to you. How, precisely, do you propose to block them?
Sounds an awful lot like you've got a hammer, and are super confident that everything else must be a nail.
If you can only get into parent's mode using a 4-6 digit PIN on the Apple TV, or, better, with biometric authentication on a parent's phone, yes, I'm pretty sure the parents can keep the kids from disabling that. One would, of course, want the Apple TV to report any authentication failures directly to the parent's phones, if parental controls are on.
And, more to the point, if the kids are doing a determined attack on the security rather than just casual doorknob twisting, it's time for the parents to have a serious talk with the kids.
iMessage, FaceTime Audio, Safari, and Maps all seem like they'd be easier to manipulate with a device, the same kind of device that you'd need to type on and use to manipulate these apps. I have no idea why I'd want FaceTime audio on the AppleTV? I've got FaceTime audio on other devices already.
I absolutely agree with wanting them to support continuity for FaceTime on the TV, game changer for family events and grandparents. Especially if it could automatically keep the people in the picture larger / zoomed, it'd be phenomenal.
Even if it's not ready to start, I figured a Mac AirPlayed to the AppleTV and the continuity camera away from the Mac basically gets you there.
I think if they wanted it as a game machine, they'd need to release it with a bunch of stuff already on it. Even if it was some classics redone.
I agree, that they'd need to mean it. I want them to throw a few billion at it, get a dozen (or two) items like Tomb Raider 2013, recode it and give it away with the unit. Preferrably a bunch of stuff that's never been out for Mac.
Have a bunch of newer games out there for launch. Chose one free with the purchase of the unit.
There are some companies with some M1 games out there already. Buy them or make a deal for them.
I don't need a game machine, but I feel like they're so close with the current Apple TVs.
Did you ever have an Apple TV 1st gen? It had a 40GB or 160GB hard drive and it was very interesting how it worked. It would sync music or download movies as it played. I think the 160GB was $399 ($299 for 40GB) and that was 15 years ago and I don't think they even worked with any other streaming apps. I picked up the 40GB and after playing with it for a day, took it back to Best Buy and got the 160GB. It was a fun machine to tinker with, most of my stuff was using a computer with it though (pull shows off my TiVo and put them there to watch, etc.).