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"Cook said that 60% of customers who have owned an iPhone prior to the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus have not yet upgraded"

Wow! no wonder they are releasing a 4-inch iPhone again.

It's not the 4" that is integral or essential..

The 4s and 5s remain the best ever iPhones for a simple reason.
They were the best balance of design and technology at the time, and didn't compromise as much as the 6/6s generations have... (Stupid antenna lines, sticky out camera lens, stunted feature development, etc)

Don't misinterpret what many are asking for - the 4" screen 5s represents the device size that feels right. If apple can squeeze a 4.7" screen into that device size, by shrinking the bezels, then terrific. Just don't make it some cheap low-end device, for poor countries. Make it on the same spec level as the flagship device.

Ach, forget my whinge... create something new and awesome, and blow us away....

Please.
 
3) Apple keeps handicapping it's computers... The iMac is a desktop, it doesn't need tapered edges, it doesn't need to be [that] thin. We don't get CD/DVD drives anymore and have to deal with mobile processors and mobile GPUs because you want the 27inch computer in a monitor to be thin? That's stupid.

4) Single port laptop, including the charging port?

I totally agree with the desktop, why thinner? Don't some of those things make it more expensive?
I'm sure Apple would say something about the thinner with mobile processors make heat dissipation work better/faster, but put a huge heat sink on the back(!), I don't can if it's a half inch thick or 3 inches thick. I've got all these extra external accessories since I can't have a built-in DVD burner or reach the ports in the back (etc).

Same for the single port laptop, all the adaptors I need to carry around to make it work seem like a pain in the ...

Gary
 
No matter how consistently profitable you are, a decline is always a failure in market regulated by an insatiable appetite for greed. It's more! more! more! every quarter, or else!

@Alienzed Steve Jobs is gone, but if he were still alive and running the show, this would've eventually happened under his watch, too.
 
This must've happened. One thing to blame is the great software optimization that does not force people to upgrade each year. In fact, my iPhone 5c is really fast under iOS 9 and have no reason to upgrade (except for Touch ID), something you wouldn't get on Android.

In addition to the software optimization the QA/QC on the hardware is better than most. I recently purchased an MP3 player to replace my 1st Gen iPod Shuffle that started to have problems a few months ago. 8 years is plenty long for such a little device that I actually abused at times. Also my 3GS is still active, purchased 2nd hand and almost as ancient as the Shuffle. Have an iPad 3 and no plans to upgrad that either as it does exactly what it was designed to do: consume media. Sure, I don't like the price premium that Apple charges but on the other hand their products are not destined for the landfill after 2-3 years of constant heavy usage either.
 
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They're making lots of money but it's a scary thing for investors to have almost seven tenths of Apple's bread and butter coming from one product line (iPhone).

It would be if the rest of their product line didn't equal or exceed the vast majority of their competitors.
 
It has nothing to do with the iPhone 6S. It's because the value of other currencies is dropping respective to the US dollar, and Apple has significantly increased the price of the 6S in many markets. It's simple micro economics: increase the price and sales drop.
Exactly. Not only jacking up the price but also offering outdated stuff for that price such as 16GB storage in 2016!
 
Well, I have been one of the fewer that contributed as I upgraded from my 5S to a 6S very early January to get one last subsidy in through AT&T to keep my unlimited contract. I was originally planning on getting the iPhone 7, but if the removal of the headphone jack rumor ends up being true I will be happy I went for the 6S 128GB.
 
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Yes it's the large phones that are the reason for decline sales == Sarcasm

For the ten vocal whiners that like the 4" iphone size, think a bit please... last year was biggest sales they ever had for the iPhone 6/6+. It's more a statement that the 6s isn't that great, the increased dollar value, and the fact that iPhones are still very usable going back as far as the 4s (really the 5).
 
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One way or the other this is going to happen sooner and some later. I have the same feeling about this, I'm not even excited about iPhone 7 anymore like I used to. I decided to sell my iPad Air 2 couple months ago and never missed it. My oversize phone works just fine and it's more than enough what the iPad is capable of. I don't know what's the next big thing but Apple is stingy on making those features available. Which then you realized that those features are already available on other platforms that they don't actually has little benefit to users. Another reason for me is the price and it's becoming impractical to upgrade even for 2 years. For the 98% of my digital life my phone still capable after 3-4 years imho. Cheaper alternatives are becoming widely available to the market and the experience and quality is closing the gap. This trend is not gonna get better anytime soon.
 
Apple became a boring brand that want to sell you things you do not care about, you do not need, are useless as if they discovered America. People got bored.

In my office we have equipment from 4 years ago and we are just fine. We do not even care if something new came out.
 
Agreed.

Cook touts 60% not upgrading like it's a good thing. Perhaps those 60% enjoy their 4" iPhones and don't want to use a bloody phablet.

You know all of this stuff was already in the pipeline while Jobs was still running the show? But yes, let's blame Cook for everything.
 
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Fake innovation can only mislead customers for so long, unfortunately :(

Right. As one who obviously can't be mislead, who are your go-to companies for real innovation when buying computer or wireless products? HP, Lenovo, Samsung, HTC, Microsoft? Sanyo?

And, what are those innovations that have made their products worthy of your purchase, and that have lead them to market dominance? Please be specific.
 
No one is going to buy a $1,000 unsubsidized phone. I know in theory you pay for it anyway, but the average college kid doesn't have that kind of cash or really look at the total cost of iPhone ownership.

That's why AT&T has a plan to spread the cost over 24 months. Guessing Verizon has something similar.

Agree that the end of subsidies (might as well get a new phone every two years since you are paying for it) is hurting all phone sales, including iPhone.
 
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Strange world we live in where selling 61 million iPhones in a quarter is considered bad or merely ok (yet disappointing) instead of good.
Those numbers is impressive on papers so as the first week of sales record. The problem lies on where the market really depends on. Obviously the sales in the US is down and the rest of other first world countries. For now China sales was great but that will decline soon quickly. But then even if the worldwide sales is below 50mil that's still impressive. But for a business world based on history it may not a good thing if it continue to decline.
 
1) Steve Jobs was right. Phablets are stupid and DROPPING the 4inch phone from the upgrade cycle from also really stupid. I personally do not want a giant phone, if anything I'd be very happy with a tiny one.

2) The new products are not aesthetically pleasing... the new iPhone looked weird, face it. What are those lines? They don't look good, it's not "simple". Ivy wagwon?

3) Apple keeps handicapping it's computers... The iMac is a desktop, it doesn't need tapered edges, it doesn't need to be [that] thin. We don't get CD/DVD drives anymore and have to deal with mobile processors and mobile GPUs because you want the 27inch computer in a monitor to be thin? That's stupid.

4) Single port laptop, including the charging port?

Stupid moves make for declining sales. Smarten up Tim.

1) keep in mind that's your opinion. I, and I'm sure is hell that I'm not the only one, extremely satisfied being the owner of a 5.5 inch iPhone. So no phablets are not stupid, just as much so as 4" ones are.

2) Once again your opinion. The design of the 6 and 6S with the almost seamless transition between the glass and aluminum is definitely a step ahead of where the 5 series was. Plus the lines are an improvement over the pieces of glass on the back of the 5S that were jarring against the metal back.

3) Youre onto something there

4) ditto
 
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You have a dork who has taken credit for the steam created by his predecessor, riding aboard a massive locomotive downhill... now finally the giant has hit a valley and the train now needs something more than just different sizes of a product invented nearly a decade before to climb the next mountain.

War time CEO vs Peace time CEO ... Jobs vs. Cook ...

Cook wasted breath wandering the globe, meeting leaders of countries and politicians, prolific in his progressive agenda, and leaving the innovation to an aging group who seem to care more about expensive houses and cars more NOW than they did when their abusive leader was around. Say what you will about Jobs being dead for quite a while, but it was the steam of Jobs that got them to where they are today, not Cook. They've always needed that war time CEO mentality... but they don't have that anymore. They have Cook, and he will be responsible for the slow but steady fall into disorder, found just around the river bend.

I almost feel sorry for Cook ... no matter what he does he will never live up to the almighty Steve Jobs. And most of the products people blame Cook for were likely in the pipeline while Jobs was still running things.
 
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