No - I forgot something inside like my wallet. OR I'm bringing in several bags of groceries. OR I just need to look at or check something.
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Apple Explains How to Keep Your Mac From Turning on When Opening Lid
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EXACTLY. I feel like I am taking crazy pills here. There are more than one reason to do things.
Hey, Tim, you got rid of Apple's industry-leading user-friendly skeuomorphic design and replaced it with Microsoft's user-unfriendly flat design. And now you want users to use a command prompt if they don't want their Mac laptop to turn on when the lid is opened. So why not just get rid of the GUI completely and go back to a fully non-graphical UI like DOS? DOS is the ultimate in flat design. It dosen't get any more flat than that.
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Real scenario happened to me: leaving a reading room where the librarian asks you to open the laptop to check whether you're stealing any document.
As this thread has shown, Tim Cook supporters will defend anything he does, even something as user-unfriendly as telling users to use a command prompt.
The whole purpose of Apple releasing the Lisa with a GUI in 1983, and then the the first Macintosh with a GUI in 1984, and then continuing with the Macintosh with a GUI up to the present day 41 years later in 2025, is so users would never have to use a command prompt.
Automatically turning on when the lid is opened is pointless and unwanted by many. There’s a power button by the keyboard within reach as soon as the lid is opened.
Turning on when pressing any key is pointless and unwanted by many. There’s a power button by the keyboard.
All of that should prove that Cook is not a products person, and that he is clueless and mediocre. But his supporters will keep on defending, no matter how illogical the products become.
The whole purpose of Apple releasing the Lisa with a GUI in 1983, and then the the first Macintosh with a GUI in 1984, and then continuing with the Macintosh with a GUI up to the present day 41 years later in 2025, is so users would never have to use a command prompt.
Automatically turning on when the lid is opened is pointless and unwanted by many. There’s a power button by the keyboard within reach as soon as the lid is opened.
Turning on when pressing any key is pointless and unwanted by many. There’s a power button by the keyboard.
All of that should prove that Cook is not a products person, and that he is clueless and mediocre. But his supporters will keep on defending, no matter how illogical the products become.
It’s a support document on how to access a behavior tweak for something niche enough in demand that throwing a UI toggle into settings is likely not something anyone wants to clutter things up with. There’s literally thousands of these docs for tweaking hardware and os behavior, and the general APIs for the various layers. They existed under Jobs too, especially after NeXTSTEP became OSX. This isnt new, it isnt cook, and it isnt even Apple - nearly every software maker has docs like this. If everything tweakable via cli or config file had a ui toggle the settings app would be unusable.
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Jobs was more stubborn than Tim Cook.. You can’t please all the people at all times….
If it’s “something niche enough,” then why was it standard on literally every single one of the many millions of Macintosh laptops that were sold since the very first one, the Macintosh Portable, was released in 1989?
That video proves my point. In that video, Steve Jobs explains how he was focused on customers and thus would lead by being focused on providing customers the most user-friendly experience possible. That’s the opposite of Tim Cook who is focused on shareholders and this leads by being focused on maximizing profits, and is lazy and doesn’t care about user-friendliness.
No. Video proves Steve didn’t really care about niche features or bugs. He would have said it’s a user error. Tim would have handled the iPhone 4 antenna gate with grace instead of you are holding it wrong. One of the biggest driver for Jobs was to say No to things which others may consider important but didn’t really change big picture.
I said a niche demand, most people like that their laptop is an instant on at lid open because then the experience is generally the same whether you turned it off or put it to sleep by closing the lid. It makes the UX consistent. The number of people clamoring to turn this off is very small.