Apple Explains Why It Removed TikTok From the App Store in the U.S.

[vantelimus]

I’m not saying the law itself is unconstitutional, simply the fact that it results in the federal government being able to use this method to determine what’s the “right” ideology for Americans, which is against the spirit of free speech.

It has nothing to do with ideology. It has to do with an adversarial foreign power collecting data on and tracking American citizens.

Here's how you know it isn't about ideology. If TikTok sells to an American owner and is no longer under the control of Chinese Communist Party, virtually nothing else has to change. None of the posts have to change. All the same users can access it. None of the algorithms have to change.

On the contrary. The law creates a separate category specifically for TikTok and its affiliates by name without additional determination. The other category is, as you say, for apps with 1 million+ users where the president has the deciding power.

It is truly a poorly written law since it covers only social media. It doesn't, for instance, cover a map-type app that could easily track the position of every American using the app.

 

[omihek]

Because we're supposed to be a free country.

Freedom ain't free

 

[szw-mapple fan]

It has nothing to do with ideology. It has to do with an adversarial foreign power collecting data on and tracking American citizens.

Here's how you know it isn't about ideology. If TikTok sells to an American country and is no longer under the control of Chinese Communist Party, virtually nothing else has to change. None of the posts have to change. All the same users can access it. None of the algorithms have to change.

I don’t really think it’s necessarily about ideology either. Simply responding to a previous comment that was.

It is truly a poorly written law since it covers only social media. It doesn't, for instance, cover a map type app that could easily track the position of every American using the app.

It’s worse than that. It actually carves out an exemption for apps whose primary purpose is to “post product reviews, business reviews, or travel information and reviews.” A lot of maps/POI aggregation type of apps that collect location data would probably be exempted.

 

[PowerButton]

But doesn’t that specifically go against free speech? What place does the government have of dictating what ideology should be censored or not in a society that is supposed to have free speech enshrined as a fundamental right?

That’s what I was saying. China owns it, they would be censoring the content by curation. The US government wouldn’t be censoring content, they would be killing the platform. The content can be shared on other platforms.

 

[Fred Zed]

It’s all about the money. USA is a corporation and all decisions are made for reasons of financial gain. If it can’t compete it bans. If it can’t control it overthrows. Nothing new to see here.

 

[IlluminatedSage]

Apple’s actions here are a great example of why iPhone and iPad users ought to be able to install software independently of Apple.

 

[burgman]

It’s all about the money. USA is a corporation and all decisions are made for reasons of financial gain. If it can’t compete it bans. If it can’t control it overthrows. Nothing new to see here.

Because China has, over the decades, to show they are a good country in not stealing of IP, designs, private information, Crypto fraud, citizens rights, Covid information sharing, and recently land rights of other countries. Oh wait...

 

[Fred Zed]

Because China has, over the decades, to show they are a good country in not stealing of IP, designs, private information, Crypto fraud, citizens rights, Covid information sharing, and recently land rights of other countries. Oh wait...

All that what you wrote is western propaganda that your western Gov says and echos via its news outlets. You need to start broadening your horizons and not just get news from fox or cnn. They all sing from the same hymn sheet.

 

[avz]

It’s all about the money.

No. Printing money is just an instrument to serve a concept and in accordance with that a decision is made who gets the money and who does not. For example Hitler got the money to lift his country out of ruins in order to serve transnational interests. In the same way Ukraine is getting the money but some other country does not.

A non-structural thing like a concept of slavery is much greater than a structural/material thing such as money. Slave masters figured very quickly that having people on a leash and feeding them is very inconvenient. The progress allowed for modern slaves to motivate, work, feed themselves and even believe that they are free.

Somebody in one of the threads got offended by the "human resources" and the reality is that people have all the right to be offended.

 

[Fred Zed]

No. Printing money is just an instrument to serve a concept and in accordance with that a decision is made who gets the money and who does not. For example Hitler got the money to lift his country out of ruins in order to serve transnational interests. In the same way Ukraine is getting the money but some other country does not.

A non-structural thing like a concept of slavery is much greater than a structural/material thing such as money. Slave masters figured very quickly that having people on a leash and feeding them is very inconvenient. The progress allowed for modern slaves to motivate, work, feed themselves and even believe that they are free.

Somebody in one of the threads got offended by the "human resources" and the reality is that people have all the right to be offended.

If that’s your indoctrination then so be it. It’s all about the money in the USA. Ukraine gets the money because USA will get a return on its investment.

 

[avz]

Ukraine gets the money because USA will get a return on its investment.

I see. In 24 hours, right?

 

[deckard666]

I’m sure TikTok will live regardless…does the whole world spin round the US ? (Not anymore)

 

[VulchR]

I’m sure TikTok will live regardless…does the whole world spin round the US ? (Not anymore)

Probably, but they lost a market of 330+ million people, and the Europeans are similarly concerned (a market of half a billion people).