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It would be nice

Yeah, I know it's a fantasy, but it would be nice if people simply respected other people and their property. Security is unnecessary when people are honest. Unfortunately, many are not...
 
Surely this can't be granted? I had this on my Nokia N8 back in 2010 or 2011.

Out of curiosity I thought to myself 'How long would it be before people posted accusations of copying?". The answer was 3 posts...

In any case, did it work well on the Nokia?
 
So if I find or steal a passcode locked phone, I can spoof a celltower and wifi network near the area where the owner lives and it will think it's home and remove the protection? Or if I steal it from an owner's house (or from the owner directly nearby his house) I can get into the phone without a passcode?

where do you guys live??? :eek: i leave my macbook and ipad unattended on the table at the library and its still there an hour later. i especially wouldnt worry about this in my own four walls, thats why im glad theres already a jb tweak that allows me to use it without a passcode once i enter a familiar wifi network
 
This is the feature build into Android L. If you have Android wear or similar devices near your Android phone, your Android phone will go straight into home screen. Samsung does need steal from Apple, it is build into Android and it will be available in Samsung. Apple is behind from Google again... not surprising, Apple is good at stealing ideas from other then claim it as its own.

So you have no sense of humor then?
 
The only people I wish Apple would provide security to protect their users from at this point are the people actively compromising our hardware, software, and networks to illegally keep tabs on us, for any reason they desire, without our consent or even knowledge.

There ARE real threats to security these things pose. 15 year olds phishing for credit card numbers doesn't even compare to losing your civil rights & protections and being falsely accused and imprisoned. But what am I saying, that never happens...
 
I submitted that feature request to Apple years ago! But they decided to draw a nice diagram. I should have submitted a patent instead.
 
This location-based security patent application was filed in December 2012 and published July 3, 2014.

A pretty important tidbit in the larger picture.

No, they did not steal the idea from Google or Microsoft.

Yes, it is a feature in Android L.

Yes, Google may have to alter their feature or pay up.
 
A pretty important tidbit in the larger picture.

No, they did not steal the idea from Google or Microsoft.

Yes, it is a feature in Android L.

Yes, Google may have to alter their feature or pay up.

There are popular app's on Android that have had a very similar implementation of this idea since probably before Apple applied for this patent.
 
I’d say it’s very straight forward, though I’ve been a developer for 20+ years, so my perspective is a little skewed. If you’ve ever done any scripting like AppleScript, or even macros in Word or Excel, I suspect you’d easily be able to get a handle on basic tasks, and likely even more complex tasks.

This is a great resource:

http://tasker.wikidot.com/profile-index


... and as you’ll see from that script/task listing, about everything you might ever want to do has probably already been written, so then it’s just a matter of “plugging in the code” so to speak :)

Sold! That's fantastic. Love the way the scripts are broken down by skill level. And you're right, just about everything I thought I wanted to do was there. Thanks for the info. Apologies to all others for off topic discussion.
 
This is the feature build into Android L. If you have Android wear or similar devices near your Android phone, your Android phone will go straight into home screen. Samsung does need steal from Apple, it is build into Android and it will be available in Samsung. Apple is behind from Google again... not surprising, Apple is good at stealing ideas from other then claim it as its own.

Did you read the original post??

This location-based security patent application was filed in December 2012 and published July 3, 2014.

So Apple's patent 'stole' from Android a feature that they first announced two years later? Wow, I didn't realise that Apple was that good, to time travel and steal future ideas!
 
Surely this can't be granted? I had this on my Nokia N8 back in 2010 or 2011.
The method at which this is achieved may be different.
That may be an oversimplification that fails to withstand judicial scrutiny. It likely needs to be very different. The U.S. Supreme Court recently clarified that a basis for a patent is a patentable idea, not just an alternate method for executing an idea.
 
I don't know if I want my phone automatically unlocked when I get home. Location services aren't all that accurate. What happens if I lose it at the end of the block and it thinks I am home?

The way mine works is that once I'm home I need to unlock it with the PIN the first time, then it stays unlocked until I leave my home area.
 
where do you guys live??? :eek: i leave my macbook and ipad unattended on the table at the library and its still there an hour later. i especially wouldnt worry about this in my own four walls, thats why im glad theres already a jb tweak that allows me to use it without a passcode once i enter a familiar wifi network

You live in Iceland?
 
The way mine works is that once I'm home I need to unlock it with the PIN the first time, then it stays unlocked until I leave my home area.

Thats cool but, what happens if you are mowing the lawn and drop it in the back yard but don't realize it until someone walks by and grabs it. Instant access to all your stuff, right? So if you drop it lets say 100 yards from your house its still unlocked because it thinks you are home.

And you still have to swipe to go to home screen.

Not saying its a bad thing, but I don't mind typing in the numbers to unlock.
 
Thats cool but, what happens if you are mowing the lawn and drop it in the back yard but don't realize it until someone walks by and grabs it. Instant access to all your stuff, right? So if you drop it lets say 100 yards from your house its still unlocked because it thinks you are home.

And you still have to swipe to go to home screen.

Not saying its a bad thing, but I don't mind typing in the numbers to unlock.

That's quite a convoluted scenario. But ok, I see your point.

So with your Touch ID - what happens if you're mowing the lawn, drop your iPhone and then as you reach down, chop off all your fingers? Whilst you're in hospital, amongst the long grass, a man who has inadvertendly found himself in your private garden, finds your phone and one of your fingers and... BAM! He's in your iPhone with access to all your stuff.

Your bank account is empty within minutes, your wife leaves you and you're homeless.

Not saying Touch ID is a bad thing, but I don't mind simply being careful to be aware where my phone is and not drop it and let others get to it. It's be sixteen years so far and I've not lost it yet.
 
The only people I wish Apple would provide security to protect their users from at this point are the people actively compromising our hardware, software, and networks to illegally keep tabs on us, for any reason they desire, without our consent or even knowledge.

There ARE real threats to security these things pose. 15 year olds phishing for credit card numbers doesn't even compare to losing your civil rights & protections and being falsely accused and imprisoned. But what am I saying, that never happens...

Ironically, this feature will simplify that loss of civil rights. Imagine being witness to a demonstration which breaks out into police brutality. You whip out your iPhone to film the evidence and....

....camera disabled due to restricted location.

Of course it's easer to get people to accept this if you sell it as an 'enhancement'.
 
In any case, did it work well on the Nokia?

I was mainly doing alpha/beta-testing for it, so my experiences would not be quite the same as the actual users. But yea, it did what it was supposed to do.
 
It's funny you mention Tasker. A couple of guys at work swear by it, but they are in the IT dept. One guy claims to have over 60 different rules set on his phone (exaggeration? IDK). Ideally I want more granular control but not looking for geek level complexity. What's your experience with it?

With little effort and some 3rd party plugins you can do pretty cool things.
 
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