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Apple Exploring Liquid Notebook Cooling Systems for Cooler Laps
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My "old" 2.4 GHz MacBook Pro gets extremely hot when placed on my lap.
My new unibody 2.4 GHz MacBook Pro doesn't. Not at all. Its warm but very comfortable*.
Fan noise on my new MBP? What fan noise? Also a huge improvement over the old MBPs.
Liquid cooling? Go!
* Using the 9400M - which I use 99% of the time.
My new unibody 2.4 GHz MacBook Pro doesn't. Not at all. Its warm but very comfortable*.
Fan noise on my new MBP? What fan noise? Also a huge improvement over the old MBPs.
Liquid cooling? Go!
* Using the 9400M - which I use 99% of the time.
Excellent point! Liquid cooling works well when done right, just partner with a proven company...
The liquid cooling technology has come a long way. See, follow this link and behold the beauty of the external liquid cooler. Although, you might have to upgrade to a larger lap!!
http://www.instructables.com/forum/My-Homemade-External-Laptop-Liquid-Cooling-System/
http://www.instructables.com/forum/My-Homemade-External-Laptop-Liquid-Cooling-System/
I've been thinking about liquid cooling for Macs for a couple of months now. I'm not totally convinced that this patent is really for laptops. I suspect that it may actually be for the iMac. So what's my reasoning for this?
There is currently no machine in Apple's range that uses a desktop processor. This puts Apple at a big disadvantage compared to other manufacturers. For example, all other manufacturers have had quad core PCs for a very long time now, but Apple still doesn't (crippled Mac Pro's don't really count). Until very recently there wasn't even a quad core processor that was suitable for the iMac, as they all ran too hot. Apple certainly doesn't have a machine that could accept the new Core i7. But with liquid cooling, they could easily put a desktop processor into an iMac and make it run silently. Liquid cooling is nothing new - many overclockers have been using them successfully for years now, and they're improving all the time. They're sealed units and shouldn't leak.
Until Intel released the 65w quad core chips last month, I was actually suspecting that Apple would release a liquid cooled Core i7 iMac in January.
There is currently no machine in Apple's range that uses a desktop processor. This puts Apple at a big disadvantage compared to other manufacturers. For example, all other manufacturers have had quad core PCs for a very long time now, but Apple still doesn't (crippled Mac Pro's don't really count). Until very recently there wasn't even a quad core processor that was suitable for the iMac, as they all ran too hot. Apple certainly doesn't have a machine that could accept the new Core i7. But with liquid cooling, they could easily put a desktop processor into an iMac and make it run silently. Liquid cooling is nothing new - many overclockers have been using them successfully for years now, and they're improving all the time. They're sealed units and shouldn't leak.
Until Intel released the 65w quad core chips last month, I was actually suspecting that Apple would release a liquid cooled Core i7 iMac in January.
I didn't get AppleCare on mine either.
I actually meant to, but I spaced out on the deadline. Oh well, saved me $200; pretty much flawless machine really. I suppose I'll get a Mac Pro eventually but I'm not in a hurry.--Eric
Sacrificing function at the altar of form, Apple created laptops too thin to properly dissipate heat without making them uncomfortably hot. The irony of hot, cool looking laptops. Think different, indeed.
Well, Liquid does take longer to heat up. Just up near the LCD worries me. while Dell says no, and claims it is abuse - many blogs have been about LCD's cracking after closing the lid, following long periods of use. Many people question heat.
I must have missed the article where Apple said you can get burns. I do no sit there with a laptop ob my lap. However, I know a disable woman who fried an IBM for using in bed on a blanket.
I worry about leaks. What will they use to cool, Considering they are going all Green - Water does not make sense.... Antifreeze is very corrosive if not diluted properly.
Well, atleast they did not go the route of one tech at CompUSA I spoke to a while back. He was telling me about his over-tweaked machine (in a small case - bout the size of the old HP mini/Micro towers). his way of keeping it cool - take a ziplock bag full of ice cubes and sit it directly on the CPU.
I must have missed the article where Apple said you can get burns. I do no sit there with a laptop ob my lap. However, I know a disable woman who fried an IBM for using in bed on a blanket.
I worry about leaks. What will they use to cool, Considering they are going all Green - Water does not make sense.... Antifreeze is very corrosive if not diluted properly.
Well, atleast they did not go the route of one tech at CompUSA I spoke to a while back. He was telling me about his over-tweaked machine (in a small case - bout the size of the old HP mini/Micro towers). his way of keeping it cool - take a ziplock bag full of ice cubes and sit it directly on the CPU.
Sacrificing function at the altar of form, Apple created laptops too thin to properly dissipate heat without making them uncomfortably hot. The irony of hot, cool looking laptops. Think different, indeed.
Not necessarily - I still say the problem I found when running in clamshell mode. the hinge blocked most of the vent. while ugly, maybe go the route of PC's... A huge vent with a fan right on the side. Side could be used as a hand warmer without getting burned - stayed cool on your lap.
I mean, they did away with FW, and it appears there is room on the sites of the machine.
Am I the only one that sees a problem higher on the disaster scale than the liquid cooled G5.
Running fluid through the top case and connecting it with a flex element or rotating coupler is a certain weak point that should give you a nice wet lap within 3 years -- an you won't be blaming the porn for it either.
Running fluid through the top case and connecting it with a flex element or rotating coupler is a certain weak point that should give you a nice wet lap within 3 years -- an you won't be blaming the porn for it either.
I'm surprised this thread went this long without someone mentioning a PowerBook G5
Thank you! I have read this first couple pages and all I saw were posts saying water and electronics do not match. I think liquid cooling is a good idea myself.
How in the world can they get a Liquid Cooling System into Macbook or Macbook Pro? There's no space in there to fit a reservoir, radiator and pump.
1 small leak and your macbook or macbook pro becomes a macbrick.
or you could use a non conductive material.
If this technological revolution is a refrigerant heat pipe (like what you get in virtually every single modern computer cooling solution) and it breaks how will that help? Maybe the components being cooled will throttle/shutdown before damaging themselves, but either way you're still going to have to send it in for a repair - copper isn't cheap and refridgerents hardly fit in with the 'green' marketing campaign.
Well... let's see.... Mac has METAL, AIR, ELECTRICITY. Why not water? Oh, maybe because water f's up all three of those other components.
I can understand a water cooled tower, but a laptop? One good drop and the $2000+ thing is complete trash.
I can understand a water cooled tower, but a laptop? One good drop and the $2000+ thing is complete trash.