That’s up to the individual to decide.Apple is taking 50% from newspapers. What value has apple provided?
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Sure you can....Except you can't.
That’s up to the individual to decide.Apple is taking 50% from newspapers. What value has apple provided?
Sure you can....Except you can't.
Terrible example. It's more like a municipal authority saying that if you want to sell to anyone in their city, you're only allowed to do it in a single mall owned by them and must give them 30% of every sale, and 30% of subscription payments made for everything that you deliver to their house and you aren't allowed to tell the customers that they can buy the product outside the city.
Basically, Apple is acting like they have an entitlement to levy a tax on any product delivered through an Apple device, and that's wrong.
Except you can't.
That’s up to the individual to decide.
Sure you can.
I see it more as Apple being a state and the developers being citizens who are expected to pay their taxes to help pay for infrastructure and amenities.
And if you don’t like the rules and level of taxation in your country, well, emigration (to android) is always an option. Just that the grass may not always be greener on the other side.
Standing at the door preventing you from accessing the customer is negative value. I'm happy to remove value subtraction.
If you're perfectly fine with being treated like a toddler who can't be trusted to make decisions for yourself by a trillion dollar company which does not have your best interests in mind, well have at it. But don't you dare try to speak for every other iPhone user (which happens to include me).What if I as the customer claim to be okay with this arrangement? That what you think may be good for the developer may not be the case for the customer?
I'd say I'm both a customer and developer myself and don't care what you want.What if I said that I am fine with all developers having to go through the App Store because that means they (and by extension, their apps) have to subject to their rules and regulations? While sometimes onerous on the developer, have undeniably helped make the App Store that much safer and more secure for the end user? What if I specifically want Apple to act as the intermediary between customer and developer?
Fine. Then only buy your apps via iTunes. I don't care. But don't try telling me that because you want it that way that I have to tolerate it that way too.You may want to be able to sell software directly from a website and keep 100% of the proceeds. I may want the convenience and security of being able to manage my app downloads and updates from one central location, and actually prefer managing my payments via iTunes then having my credit card info proliferate amongst so many different vendors.
It's actually just as beneficial to both, since identity infrastructure is just annoying to build. Regardless though, Apple introduced it because centralising user data with Apple is incredibly valuable to them. As a customer, and a developer, I say with absolution that we do not need Apple to force them to implement said feature for the benefit of Apple.Maybe a developer can’t be bothered to implement sign-in-with-Apple, which is a feature that is highly beneficial to the customer while offering little value to the developer. That’s why we need someone like Apple to force them to implement said feature for the benefit of the end user.
It actually sucks for me, the customer, as well. Since Apple limits the kinds of apps I can get and how they work.Maybe this all does suck for the developer, and perhaps that’s why I find I am not quite able to fully emphasise with your plight. Because Apple’s App Store has been so great for me to use as a customer, precisely because of all the rules and restrictions they impose on you, the developer.
If you're perfectly fine with being treated like a toddler who can't be trusted to make decisions for yourself by a trillion dollar company which does not have your best interests in mind, well have at it. But don't you dare try to speak for every other iPhone user (which happens to include me).
I'd say I'm both a customer and developer myself and don't care what you want.
Fine. Then only buy your apps via iTunes. I don't care. But don't try telling me that because you want it that way that I have to tolerate it that way too.
It's actually just as beneficial to both, since identity infrastructure is just annoying to build. Regardless though, Apple introduced it because centralising user data with Apple is incredibly valuable to them. As a customer, and a developer, I say with absolution that we do not need Apple to force them to implement said feature for the benefit of Apple.
It actually sucks for me, the customer, as well. Since Apple limits the kinds of apps I can get and how they work.
So the key takeaway here is that you think you have the right to speak on behalf of every iOS user and claim that lockin is good for everyone because you like it. How arrogant.(stuff)
If the individual doesn't seen enough value, they won't use it. Ergo, it's up to the individual.Apple doesn't leave it up to the individual to decide. They decide for both sides.
Sure you can.No you can't.
Because you are not fine with the arrangement, doesn't mean it's not the overall best arrangement for the majority of the Apple customer base, as Apple sees it. And contrary to the accounting whizzes on the forum attempting to dissect Apples earning on the app store, this, imo, is less about money and more about a better environment for Apple customers as Apple sees it.If you're perfectly fine with being treated like a toddler who can't be trusted to make decisions for yourself by a trillion dollar company which does not have your best interests in mind, well have at it. But don't you dare try to speak for every other iPhone user (which happens to include me).
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No, it's not up to the individual. It takes either wilful ignorance or stupidity to claim otherwise.If the individual doesn't seen enough value, they won't use it. Ergo, it's up to the individual.
No you can'tSure you can.
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It's objectively not the best environment for the customer base when a trillion dollar company which doesn't give a crap about anything other than staying a trillion dollar company decides for them. How "Apple" sees it is irrelevant. It's not the best arrangement for the customers. It's absolutely all about the money for Apple, no matter how all you fanboys try to spin it.Because you are not fine with the arrangement, doesn't mean it's not the overall best arrangement for the majority of the Apple customer base, as Apple sees it. And contrary to the accounting whizzes on the forum attempting to dissect Apples earning on the app store, this, imo, is less about money and more about a better environment for Apple customers as Apple sees it.
Think about it.Apple is taking 50% from newspapers. What value has apple provided?
Ok, my opinion says otherwise.No, it's not up to the individual. It takes either wilful ignorance or stupidity to claim otherwise.
I don't agree.No you can't
This is just your opinion. How you see it is not relevant. You don't want apple controlling your experience, there are alternatives. A trillion dollar company is going to do what it thinks best for the majority of it's customer base...not one poster on an anonymous internet forum.It's objectively not the best environment for the customer base when a trillion dollar company which doesn't give a crap about anything other than staying a trillion dollar company decides for them. How "Apple" sees it is irrelevant. It's not the best arrangement for the customers. It's absolutely all about the money for Apple, no matter how all you fanboys try to spin it.
We're talking about the same company that thought the butterfly keyboard was acceptable and provided the only solution of buying a brand spanking new 2019 Macbook that didn't have a fundamentally flawed by design keyboard to fix it.
I'd say I'm both a customer and developer myself and don't care what you want.
a 30% cut on getting your ebook published is peanuts compared to what you'll have to lose when publishing a paperback. as a writer - who basically can do all the stuff end to end using tools apple provided for free - you will have 70% of the sale price as revenue, versus you might be able to get 10% tops from the price of a paperback.
especially 'regular' sw distribution (buying stuff on media) has even bigger extra costs for the actual creator.
everyone tends to forget that all developers get an unlimited 'lifetime MSDN subscription like' dev environment for free, all the sales tools and access to a worldwide marketplace. sales commission of 30% is peanuts compared to all the investments or out payments to 3rd parties if you'd have to do this alone.
The 30% cut is way too high. PERIOD.
You’re right!but there are other markets besides apple and google, look at the jailbreaking community.
The 30% cut is way too high. PERIOD.