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Problem is the iPhone 7 was sold until Sept 2019 and only then was discontinued. So for those people, the phone is only 3 years old. The 5th gen iPad was discontinued in March 2018, 18 months before that, and is still supported.
3 years old. The other manufacturer only does 3 years of updates so still what are people complaining about?
 
Problem is the iPhone 7 was sold until Sept 2019 and only then was discontinued. So for those people, the phone is only 3 years old. The 5th gen iPad was discontinued in March 2018, 18 months before that, and is still supported.
The 5s was still getting iOS updates very recently. I expect iOS 15 to receive updates for some time.
 
The phone is very old. Let it die gracefully, don’t bog it down with an OS too bloated for it to handle. Apple supports devices for too long.
 
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Everyone didn't buy all their iPhone 7s on the first day of sale in 2016. The last day of sale for a brand new iPhone 7 from the Apple website was in Sept 2019. That's 3 years of support to them, not 6.
Full support starts when the device is released, not when the person buys the device. In that three years, they could have gotten an 8, X, XS or even a XR but they chose a device that was already 3 years old.
 
Not getting security updates is an issue, especially these days.
Since Apple continued to release security updates to iOS 12 for the iPhone 5s and 6 for a couple years after they were no longer able to update to iOS 13, it seems likely that Apple will do the same with iOS 15 for the 6s and 7 (iOS 15.7 was already released at the same time iOS 16 was).
 
The phone is very old. Let it die gracefully, don’t bog it down with an OS too bloated for it to handle. Apple supports devices for too long.

Being green and environmentally conscious means using your phone, your car, and everything, for as long as possible, and buying as few things as possible, not replacing them with or buying a lot of unnecessary new things that have an "ECO" sticker on them.

If Apple really wants to get green credentials, they should keep releasing security updates for old phones, independently of whether the OS is old and cannot be updated.

An iPhone 5s on its last available OS with security updates is a perfectly functional and capable device. Imagine updating your iPhone yearly for 10 years instead of keeping your 5s, what amount of materials (mining, processing), manufacturing (energy), and this also means capital goods and the creation of those, plus logistics have you used unnecessarily?

Enough resources to run a well-optimized home for several years. And that's just your phone.
 
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Being green and environmentally conscious means using your phone, your car, and everything, for as long as possible, and buying as few things as possible, not replacing them with or buying a lot of unnecessary new things that have an "ECO" sticker on them.

If Apple really wants to get green credentials, they should keep releasing security updates for old phones, independently of whether the OS is old and cannot be updated.

An iPhone 5s on its last available OS with security updates is a perfectly functional and capable device. Imagine updating your iPhone yearly for 10 years instead of keeping your 5s, what amount of materials (mining, processing), manufacturing (energy), and this also means capital goods and the creation of those, plus logistics have you used unnecessarily?

Enough resources to run a well-optimized home for several years. And that's just your phone.
I understand what you are saying and Apple does actually make this possible. The 5s you reference received a security update (to iOS 12) on August 31, 2022 so Apple still is providing security updates to devices that old and it will likely do the same for the 6s and 7 via security updates to iOS 15.
 
Being green and environmentally conscious means using your phone, your car, and everything, for as long as possible, and buying as few things as possible, not replacing them with or buying a lot of unnecessary new things that have an "ECO" sticker on them.
I guess I should stop my recycling activities since I'm not environmentally conscious. I like to buy a new car every three years, replace my phone every 4 years. I definitely don't buy as few things as possible.
If Apple really wants to get green credentials, they should keep releasing security updates for old phones, independently of whether the OS is old and cannot be updated.
No matter what Apple does it is never enough. (Microsoft should also release security updates to windows xp...right?) But I think keeping ios 12 alive on the 5s is a solid step in proving apple has green credentials.
An iPhone 5s on its last available OS with security updates is a perfectly functional and capable device.
Sure, but compared to what a smartphone of 2022 can do, it sorely lacks.
Imagine updating your iPhone yearly for 10 years instead of keeping your 5s, what amount of materials (mining, processing), manufacturing (energy), and this also means capital goods and the creation of those, plus logistics have you used unnecessarily?
The environment is meant to be used judiciously. If I want to update my phone every year, I'll do that.
Enough resources to run a well-optimized home for several years. And that's just your phone.
There comes a point I want what I want. I'm not a reduce capitalism to zero type of person.
 
I understand what you are saying and Apple does actually make this possible. The 5s you reference received a security update (to iOS 12) on August 31, 2022 so Apple still is providing security updates to devices that old and it will likely do the same for the 6s and 7 via security updates to iOS 15.
I still use an iPad mini v2. Cannot update beyond iOS12. As described, received the security update as well. Running 12.5.6. Work fine for Netflix and Books. Safari is a bit slow. But it still works well. As has been said often, just because new software comes out, that does not mean that the older software stops working.
 
I still use an iPad mini v2. Cannot update beyond iOS12. As described, received the security update as well. Running 12.5.6. Work fine for Netflix and Books. Safari is a bit slow. But it still works well. As has been said often, just because new software comes out, that does not mean that the older software stops working.
That is the ipad my mother uses, it is a bit slow but still works fine, she uses it for tons of games that still work and apps still work
 
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I have zero sympathy for people complaining about 6 year old phone not getting an update. The 5th, 6th, and 7th gen ipad are all newer.
yes, but age shouldn't matter, it should be by power, apple shouldn't have made the 7 so powerful if they don't want people to use their phones for nearly a decade, also what happened to apple talking abt how there phones last so long but now there getting mad when their phones last so long .-.
i own a 7+ and im not getting a new iphone, and when they stop giving out security updates, im buying a android lol
 
i own a 7+ and im not getting a new iphone, and when they stop giving out security updates, im buying a android lol
That… makes no sense in this context. On average, iPhone devices get software support for about twice as long as Android devices. (Roughly 3 years for Android and roughly 6 years for iPhone)

So if you’re upset when your 7 stops getting support, your solution is to switch over to the OS that has notoriously shorter software support?
 
Still a pity that the iPhone 7 is dropped, devices are still great and iOS16 does not appear to be a "total game changer" so that the old processor could not run it with slightly reduced features. Lots of precious natural resources will end up in a landfill and go to waste because of that...
 
Still a pity that the iPhone 7 is dropped, devices are still great and iOS16 does not appear to be a "total game changer" so that the old processor could not run it with slightly reduced features. Lots of precious natural resources will end up in a landfill and go to waste because of that...

I use my iPhone 7+ to display the weather forecast as a widget. It's highly useful as people in the household come to my desk to check the forecast before going outside.
 
yes, but age shouldn't matter, it should be by power, apple shouldn't have made the 7 so powerful if they don't want people to use their phones for nearly a decade, also what happened to apple talking abt how there phones last so long but now there getting mad when their phones last so long .-.
i own a 7+ and im not getting a new iphone, and when they stop giving out security updates, im buying a android lol
Late last year Apple provided security updates to the 2013 Apple Watch 5 - so I wouldn't worry about the security update part. Android? That would be like biting your nose off to spite your face.
 
I could see if the iPhone 7 wasn't capable of ios 14 but it is, so what's the justification. Class action lawsuits?
I don’t see an immediate reason for an iOS upgrade. The problem is that very soon the old iOS won’t be supported by various apps (e-banking and such. This quickly renders a perfectly good device useless for daily tasks.
 
I don’t see an immediate reason for an iOS upgrade. The problem is that very soon the old iOS won’t be supported by various apps (e-banking and such. This quickly renders a perfectly good device useless for daily tasks.
"e-banking and such" Who says?
 
"e-banking and such" Who says?
Unfortunately, we had this happen to us with the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. At some point different apps were requiring an updated iOS which meant that they could not be run, from one day to the other.

If you are dependent on your e-banking or similar apps for two-factor authentication, you’re essentially forced to buy a new device.
 
Unfortunately, we had this happen to us with the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. At some point different apps were requiring an updated iOS which meant that they could not be run, from one day to the other.

If you are dependent on your e-banking or similar apps for two-factor authentication, you’re essentially forced to buy a new device.
It's that wait and see gamble. Once apps are updated enough in XCode to require a base minimum iOS16, well, they can take advantage of new functions, but leave the odd devices out. I'd suspect most developers won't do that switch until they know a very high percentage of devices are running that minimum flavor of iOS and there's a justification for the change.
 
Unfortunately, we had this happen to us with the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. At some point different apps were requiring an updated iOS which meant that they could not be run, from one day to the other.

If you are dependent on your e-banking or similar apps for two-factor authentication, you’re essentially forced to buy a new device.
You personally had this happen to you with both your iPhone 6 and your iPhone 6 Plus huh? Okay. I'm sure, following your reported experience, others here are going to tell us about their similar experiences.
 
You personally had this happen to you with both your iPhone 6 and your iPhone 6 Plus huh? Okay. I'm sure, following your reported experience, others here are going to tell us about their similar experiences.
Pretty sure they will. I am aware it won’t happen all of a sudden...but once your iOS is 2 or 3 versions behind the current one, quickly several apps that worked perfectly fine one day started to break and require an updated iOS the next.
 
Unfortunately, we had this happen to us with the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. At some point different apps were requiring an updated iOS which meant that they could not be run, from one day to the other.

If you are dependent on your e-banking or similar apps for two-factor authentication, you’re essentially forced to buy a new device.

Umm.. no.

Two-factor authentication has two major requirements:
  1. What you know, and
  2. What you have.
What you know could be your password, or touchID that could be used to authenticate who you are. That satisfies #1.

For #2, they would need to send you something, like a code or a token in which you use in response to the challenge they give you asking for that response. That could be sent via email, or text, or any other means. Once you have that code/token, and you supply that to the app, you have satisfied #2.

That is device independent; I can still use my iPhone 6s to satisfy that for my bank's app or any app that requires 2FA. To say that you're forced to get a new device for 2FA is completely wrong.

BL.
 
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