Apple Fails in Bid to Dismiss Cydia Creator's Amended Antitrust Lawsuit

[MacRumors]

Apple has lost a bid to dismiss an antitrust lawsuit filed against it by Jay Freeman, creator of an alternative App Store known as Cydia for "jailbroken" iPhones and iPads.

Freeman sued Apple in late 2020, alleging that Apple has an illegal monopoly over iOS app distribution through the App Store. His complaint also alleged that Apple has "consistently tried to snuff out alternative app stores" such as Cydia.

Apple in January 2022 had its motion to dismiss the lawsuit [url="http://

Article Link: Apple Fails in Bid to Dismiss Cydia Creator's Amended Antitrust Lawsuit

 

[redbeard331]

This is good

 

[Smartass]

Cydia was a must-have back in the days all the way to iphone 4/5 due to all the basic features that were lacking in iphones. Then Apple finally started slowly putting their heads out of their asses and started implementing those features into their iphones. After that, at least for me, there was no need for cydia anymore, but im sure there are still people who use and need it..

 

[5232152]

Cydia is the living proof that Apple users (who want to) can easily handle multiple app stores and/or third party apps. If I am clever enough to know what and what not to download on my Macbook and Windows computer, I am sure can handle it on my iOS device too. Open the gates, Tim.

 

[6787872]

i remember cydia, a true pioneer of the jailbreaking days. didn't it proceed the app store?

 

[Sophisticatednut]

i remember cydia, a true pioneer of the jailbreaking days. didn't it proceed the app store?

It existed first. It was the AppStore before apple had an AppStore

 

[WiiDSmoker]

In before people defend Daddy Apple and say incorrect information about security and ownership.

 

[RandomTikSpeed]

In before people defend Daddy Apple and say incorrect information about security and ownership.

Daddy Apple ?

 

[Smartass]

In before people defend Daddy Apple and say incorrect information about security and ownership.

Daddy Tim Apple?

 

[DMG35]

I only wish we could jailbreak iOS 15.

 

[SoldOnApple]

Imagine what iOS would be like today if Cydia were on every iPhone from day one.

 

[TheOldChevy]

Imagine what iOS would be like today if Cydia were on every iPhone from day one.

Good question.
Would it be any different ? Would it be Android ? I guess that for most users it would be absolutely unchanged.

 

[BvizioN]

Cydia is the living proof that Apple users (who want to) can easily handle multiple app stores . Open the gates, Tim.

Except the amount of people using Cyda does not represent anywhere near a billion iOS users. The more users are there, the more potential issues to have.

 

[BootsWalking]

Automobile manufacturers aren't allowed to restrict where we buy gasoline for our cars, and smartphone makers shouldn't be allowed to restrict where we buy apps for our phones.

 

[MauiPa]

Can somebody, anybody, quote the provision of law that states vendors have to allow outside access to their hardware? does that include all hardware then, car infotainment, kindles, Xbox, Steam, PlayStation's? No? I didn't think so. Because there isn't one. should there be, that is a different discussion

 

[singularity0993]

Back in the days when iOS was severely lacking in features, even museums were using jailbroken iPods for tour guidance. (found SBSettings on one of those?)

 

[MauiPa]

Automobile manufacturers aren't allowed to restrict where we buy gasoline for our cars, and smartphone makers shouldn't be allowed to restrict where we buy apps for our phones.

that is not even close to a correct analogy

 

[BootsWalking]

that is not even close to a correct analogy

That is not even close to an argument why.

 

[MauiPa]

That is not even close to an argument why.

That because it is a statement of fact, not an argument. Facts don't need arguments, they are just that - facts

 

[Sophisticatednut]

Can somebody, anybody, quote the provision of law that states vendors have to allow outside access to their hardware? does that include all hardware then, car infotainment, kindles, Xbox, Steam, PlayStation's? No? I didn't think so. Because there isn't one. should there be, that is a different discussion

First sales doctrine? It's not their hardware

 

[I7guy]

Long way to go before a win.

 

[BootsWalking]

That because it is a statement of fact, not an argument. Facts don't need arguments, they are just that - facts

Has declaring yourself the omniscient arbiter of facts ever won you an argument?

 

[tridley68]

Jailbreak is a thing of the past I got tired long ago of the cat and mouse game between Apple and Cydia I like staying on Apples solid platform these days sorry Jay don't need your hassle anymore.

 

[Egnat69]

Without taking sides… but… from a legal POV: Isn’t it true that the business model of Cydia relies on the fact that people do something that is against the EULA that they previously agreed upon? Namely: jailbreaking their device which is basically exploiting a security-vulnerability to change certain OS-parameters.

I wonder how Freeman is arguing that closing those vulnerabilities is primary done to prevent the use of cydia ?

 

[dredlew]

Automobile manufacturers aren't allowed to restrict where we buy gasoline for our cars, and smartphone makers shouldn't be allowed to restrict where we buy apps for our phones.

Wrong analogy. When it comes to “fuel”, Apple doesn’t restrict where you get power from.

And car manufacturers, e.g. Tesla, very well restrict what apps go on their in-car entertainment system. But somehow that’s not a problem, huh?

If enforcing these ridiculous “standards” was ok, it would have to apply to every company equally and you will quickly realize how insane that gets. What if I want my app to run on IoT washing machines? Do I get to sue those manufacturers as well because they don’t support it? ?‍♂️