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I don't understand why this is going to be of any use to me. I have a Spotify subscription, which means I can already stream all the music I want on my desktop or iPhone. I can also cache it offline, so as to not blow through my data plan when out and about.

Surely this is also similar to what Napster has been doing for years, or Rhapsody, or MOG etc now.

So if all the Apple service lets me do is stream the music I've already bought, which I probably have on my device anyway.... am I missing something?

My thoughts exactly. This service will not take off if it's just storage of purchased music. Apple *must* have something up their sleeves. These are the guys who can make batteries sound revolutionary...
 
I read it as he has only purchased 5% of his music from iTunes so he won't be allowed to access the other 95% from iCloud.

I purchased 0% of my music from iTunes and have no plans to ever buy any music or movies from iTunes either.

Not looking good for me, and others like me is it? :(
 
These Apple fan boys you hear about - where do they hang out?

anyway - I won't be buying icloud unless it has a camera and a real keyboard (non of this touch nonsense) and a disk drive and isn't the cloud just an oversized desktop computer anyway.....
 
If you pay a monthly fee for this and if the labels get a cut of that* then they may not care if it's illegally acquired. You've already got the pirated music...here's a chance to make some money off that.

You act as if it's a hard sell to get the music labels to take money. It may yet happen.


* 2 'ifs' I admit. That's where the optomism comes in, I guess.

i agree, if you are paying monthly or yearly for this service, then you should be able to store music not bought on iTunes. But, Amazon does this already so Apple should do something more, although doing the exact same thing as Amazon would be good, considering it would work with iOS
 
If you pay a monthly fee for this and if the labels get a cut of that* then they may not care if it's illegally acquired. You've already got the pirated music...here's a chance to make some money off that.

You act as if it's a hard sell to get the music labels to take money. It may yet happen.


* 2 'ifs' I admit. That's where the optomism comes in, I guess.

I'm still having trouble understanding why I'd want to pay a monthly fee to access music I've already got? :confused:
 
Wow, so then 95% of my collection won't be in the iCloud? Don't think I'll be paying for that.

I know. I buy hardly any music in the digital download format.

This cloud thing is not going to be a huge hit. There will be people using it and it won't lose money. But I think Apple, Amazon and other companies are over estimating the cloud's abilities to bring in profit directly or indirectly.

What I'm worried about to a small degree is a mindset that products need to enhance the cloud service and encourage its use at the expense of other ideas. For instance will Apple and other companies promoting clouds decide it isn't worth it to strive for large storage capacities on mobile devices since the user can use the cloud? Will 64GB be the upper limit on ipads for several years to come? And what about the new time capsule/airport devices? Will these eventually lose features to encourage use of the cloud? I love Apple products and generally agree with them when they buck trends like they did with dropping floppy drives back in the day. But sometimes they drop support for services/products too soon as they "move on".
 
When will the sound quality on tracks from iTunes be improved? 128 to 160? That's all I care about
 
I'm rooting for this to work, but if people can only store and stream iTunes-purchased music only, it's going to be a tough sell. I'm betting the better part of most people's music collection was not purchased from iTunes, and will not be for a long time in the future, if ever. In my case it's probably roughly 80% ripped from my CDs (which I've given away the physical copies of), 15% purchased from iTunes, and 5% from -- uh -- *cough* other sources. So this service will not be very useful to me if it is only iTunes-purchased music supported. The potential hit on these new data caps is another significant pitfall. Like Ping, if they can't get enough users, it won't get the momentum to continue.
 
So if you have a large music and movie collection on vinyl/silicon, you can leave that to someone in your will. But what about digital purchases? If I collect thousands of dollars of media over my lifetime, can I leave it to someone in my will? Will amazon switch my kindle content to another's account as my will states? Will Apple move my itunes music to another person's account for me?

Will the cost of a lawyer to get them to do this be greater than the purchase price of the media?

And what about gifting things while your alive? If I buy a CD I can give it away. Can I decide I don't want that album anymore and send it as a gift to someone and lose access to it myself?

I have a lot of reservations about digital purchases. I've started to embrace it a little for Kindle content but I hope I don't regret it. I purchase some music digitally when it is one song. But if I like the new music and decide to get the album I go after the physical purchase still.
 
So if you have a large music and movie collection on vinyl/silicon, you can leave that to someone in your will. But what about digital purchases? If I collect thousands of dollars of media over my lifetime, can I leave it to someone in my will? Will amazon switch my kindle content to another's account as my will states? Will Apple move my itunes music to another person's account for me?

You're a cheerful bloke aren't you? :p
 
I'm still having trouble understanding why I'd want to pay a monthly fee to access music I've already got? :confused:

Why do people pay for MobileMe?

I mean, I can get most of those things for free, right?

But the fact that it's all bundled together and integrated with my machines is worth something. It'll be the same for iCloud. Wait and see how it ties Lion and iOS 5 together. There will be some weird little feature there you really really want. You'll end up paying for iCloud because of that and then you'll use the music service since it's available to you.

Your friend will say "Music streaming? Why are you paying for that?" and then you'll have to explain this whole thing all over again.
 
You know I'm beginning to think this cloud lark is a bit of a gimmick. :D

I still think it is more about marketing. I think you will see your own tastes in music start to be used in ads in real life. Digital ad posters will see you approaching (having allowed location sensing for some free product or feature on a mobile device) and change its appearance to attract you. Music playing in stores will match the tastes of the majority of shoppers present.
 
So if you have a large music and movie collection on vinyl/silicon, you can leave that to someone in your will. But what about digital purchases? If I collect thousands of dollars of media over my lifetime, can I leave it to someone in my will? Will amazon switch my kindle content to another's account as my will states? Will Apple move my itunes music to another person's account for me?

Will the cost of a lawyer to get them to do this be greater than the purchase price of the media?

And what about gifting things while your alive? If I buy a CD I can give it away. Can I decide I don't want that album anymore and send it as a gift to someone and lose access to it myself?

I have a lot of reservations about digital purchases. I've started to embrace it a little for Kindle content but I hope I don't regret it. I purchase some music digitally when it is one song. But if I like the new music and decide to get the album I go after the physical purchase still.

Please read iTunes EULA.
 
So if you have a large music and movie collection on vinyl/silicon, you can leave that to someone in your will. But what about digital purchases? If I collect thousands of dollars of media over my lifetime, can I leave it to someone in my will? Will amazon switch my kindle content to another's account as my will states? Will Apple move my itunes music to another person's account for me?

Will the cost of a lawyer to get them to do this be greater than the purchase price of the media?

And what about gifting things while your alive? If I buy a CD I can give it away. Can I decide I don't want that album anymore and send it as a gift to someone and lose access to it myself?

I have a lot of reservations about digital purchases. I've started to embrace it a little for Kindle content but I hope I don't regret it. I purchase some music digitally when it is one song. But if I like the new music and decide to get the album I go after the physical purchase still.

The good news is most people don't really care about your music collection. When you're dead and gone most of it will just be one more thing the people in charge of your estate will have to get rid of. Or the person(s) bequeathed will have to find room for in their home. At least the digital items can be easily deleted. ;)
 
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And thus only iTunes bought music can be streamed when iCloud rolls out.

And thus there are even more benefits to buying from iTunes. Nice to see Apple rewarding its customers.
 
You're a cheerful bloke aren't you? :p

LOL - well we all have to think of these things eventually. But seriously there is at stake thousands of dollars. Not to mention in a large collection of physical media, some items may gain value as collector's items.

Žalgiris;12672650 said:
Please read iTunes EULA.

Do you know the answer concerning the will?


The good news is most people don't really care about your music collection. When you're dead and gone most of it will just be one more thing the people in charge of your estate will have to get rid of. Or the person(s) bequeathed will have to find room for in their home. At least the digital items can be easily deleted. ;)

No that isn't right. There are estate sales for one thing. In my case my father has told me he is leaving me his Dylan vinyl. I appreciate it as a fan but more importantly there is sentimental value in the gesture that cannot be described.

The more I think a about it, the more I dislike the idea of purchasing media in this manner.
 
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These comments remind me of the comments made when the first iPod was announced.

The one thing that is consistent around here is the aggressive pessimism, that tends to miss the boat.
 
All I would like in a cloud like service is to be able to access stuff in my iTunes at home remotely. basically Home Sharing over 3G. Then add in the ability to update and "sync" wirelessly so I don't have to plug in the cable at all and I'll be happy. That is a cloud service I could support and would use a lot.
 
I've not heard ANY rumors on this, so probably not, but any opinions on the possibility that iCloud will ALSO include a subscription service (as an option for an additional fee) in combination with the iCloud? It would make sense to do this now when they are already negotiating with the major labels.

Tony
 
Pass. If all they're gonna do is allow you to store songs you've already purchased through itunes, then why bother cutting these music leeches in on any of it? I'm beginning to like Amazon's and Googles approach more and more. If it does come in the future, why not just worry about royalties then, its obviously not a big enough deal from the get go.
 
So if you have a large music and movie collection on vinyl/silicon, you can leave that to someone in your will. But what about digital purchases? If I collect thousands of dollars of media over my lifetime, can I leave it to someone in my will? Will amazon switch my kindle content to another's account as my will states? Will Apple move my itunes music to another person's account for me?

I'd rather spend $1.30 on a song that dies with me than $15 on a song that I can give to my kids.

Ok, I get less when I buy digital...but I'm spending way, way less too.
 
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