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For example, I imagine Apple might decide that sideloading apps may void your AppleCare warranty one day, or maybe not be eligible for certain key iOS features like iCloud.

I can totally see the AppleCare one coming. Voiding AppleCare warranty wouldn't entirely be unjustified as the malware cases that will result from sideloading would lead to extra cost for Apple or for non-sideloading customers if Apple ups the price of AppleCare. I can also imagine Apple will limit Wallet and Apple Pay usage for sideloaders.
 
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Waiting for Sony and Microsoft to be hit next regarding PS5 and Xbox stores. They might argue that you can buy games digitally from other places (digital codes). Stores are just the download source. Might get around it with
 
I could say Apple is shooting themselves in the foot here, but that'd be an enormous understatement.

It's more like Apple is dumping gasoline on themselves and holding the match.

This is going to be used to unite the EU against Apple and ensure that vastly more strict regulations and penalties rain down on them.
 
Waiting for Sony and Microsoft to be hit next regarding PS5 and Xbox stores. They might argue that you can buy games digitally from other places (digital codes). Stores are just the download source. Might get around it with
That and also the fact that you can go to any store, physical or digital, including stores that sell used products, and buy a physical copy of the game.
 
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Why oh why, Apple?

European DMA (Digital Market Act) is in its final stage and will force Apple to allow side loading and different payment methods. The fines for violating this will be tens of billions of dollars.

So why exactly is Apple still blocking the Netherlands when the fight will soon be over???
 
But at the same time they’re removing purchasing from the chromecast Apple TV app to avoid having to pay the 30% commission, and requiring users to buy content on some other device first.

Hypocritical ******s. :mad:
 
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Why oh why, Apple?

European DMA (Digital Market Act) is in its final stage and will force Apple to allow side loading and different payment methods. The fines for violating this will be tens of billions of dollars.

So why exactly is Apple still blocking the Netherlands when the fight will soon be over???
Because they (apple) want to have one solution and not a fractured solution?
 
When an entity can pay whatever fines and that's the end of it, they become lawmakers of their own ... hence untouchable ... acting above the law made by democratically elected governments. This is a very dangerous path in a capitalism democracy. I think repeating breaking the law should be penalised with Jail time ... yes even Tim. Its a mockery of domestic and international laws. In my opinion that is why the planet is where it is at the moment ... near global war ... too many entities interested in corroding democracies ... starting with big tech corps.

Cheers.
 
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Why dating apps specifically? Why not all apps?
These aren't dating apps. They are prostitution apps masquerading as dating apps. They run a cash slicing monopoly on prostitution payments and are pissed that someone else is in on their pimping.

This is completely legal in NL which is why there is a regulator.

Lets also remember exactly how hard it was to cancel subscriptions everywhere before someone took the ability away from every shyster out there. This is where the regulators are doing damage to the consumers and supporting the business only. That's not a regulator, that's enforcing a corporate monopoly instead. Which is a crap ton worse.
 
When an entity can pay whatever fines and that's the end of it, they become lawmakers of their own ... hence untouchable ... acting above the law made by democratically elected governments. This is a very dangerous path in a capitalism democracy. I think repeating breaking the law should be penalised with Jail time ... yes even Tim. Its a mockery of domestic and international laws. In my opinion that is why the planet is where it is at the moment ... near global war ... too many entities interested in corroding democracies ... starting with big tech corps.

Cheers.
Fines are pointless here(the government is possibly paying more to enforce this fine than the actual fine)… everyone loses.

If governments want to restrict what companies can do with software then a new enforcement structure is needed.
 
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Margrethe Vestager takes careful notes while Apple ignores a major European regulatory body. This is a textbook definition of winning a battle at the expense of the war.
 
These aren't dating apps. They are prostitution apps masquerading as dating apps. They run a cash slicing monopoly on prostitution payments and are pissed that someone else is in on their pimping.

This is completely legal in NL which is why there is a regulator.

Lets also remember exactly how hard it was to cancel subscriptions everywhere before someone took the ability away from every shyster out there. This is where the regulators are doing damage to the consumers and supporting the business only. That's not a regulator, that's enforcing a corporate monopoly instead. Which is a crap ton worse.

If the case is one of moral and what you mention is a matter of fact maybe Apple should ban the digital services you have in mind from the App Store instead of acting like the pimp of pimps spending the king pimp money on fines.

I’m just following your extreme prejudice narrative.

I personally believe that this narrative is crazy talk.
 
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I think last time this came around Apple basically said ”see you in court”. I can’t imagine this not ending up there. Apple isn’t budging, nor should they. The ACM got what they asked for, it just wasn’t exactly what they wanted.
 
Seems to me the argument is about process, not about end results. The regulator wanted developers to have a choice of payment systems. They got that from Apple, but apparently that's not good enough. They only want one app submission, not a separate one. If the NL got their way, why would they care how it happens? The user is going to see whatever payment system the developer wants to use, so it's a win for the NL. Why the continued fines? Seems to me there's more to the eye here.

My own opinion is that the NL shouldn't care if developers have to submit a second app for the NL only. They should only care about end result, not process. Are they trying to force this on the rest of the world? Apple is requiring a separate app so no one figures out a workaround in the rest of the world. What's the real reason the NL doesn't like the solution Apple presented, even though it gave them what they asked for?
 
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They’re casually eating these 5 million euro fines when I got a talking to when I accidentally dropped and broke one of the iPads when I worked retail there. Sheesh. o_O
There is nothing casual about it. Opening the gates is a slippery slope...it's a long-term strategic view.
 
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