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and yet there are still fanboys in this forum insisting nothing is wrong with Apple Maps.

Why are they fanboys just because they haven't experienced any issues? That's a rather immature way to look at the world, you know, if they don't agree with you they just have to be labeled as fanboys :rolleyes:
 
You're a nice guy, but you'll never be a high-paid executive unless you can be a little 'mean' sometimes.
"Cruel to be kind, in the right measure.

Cruel to be kind, it's a very good sign.

Cruel to be kind, means that I love you.

Baby! You gotta be cruel to be kind!"

:D
 
Fire the iTunes guys next?

Since there are only 2 days left in November and iTunes 11 is still coming in Nov. But I guess they have 2 days left, after the 31 days they missed releasing it in Oct.

Maybe Apple should adopt their old policy of not announcing anything until its ready to be released, including broken and vaporware apps.
 
Google wouldn't give them Turn by Turn. Not on terms Apple would agree to (like letting Google put in ads and have user data)

so google could not put ads in their own crap but the apps today in ios r filled with ads...seriously stop speculating
 
so google could not put ads in their own crap but the apps today in ios r filled with ads...seriously stop speculating

It's pretty clear that he was talking about the Maps app included with iOS which has alway been made by Apple. Not Google. Google simply supplied the mapping data.
 
Still waiting for Google, TomTom, Garmin, etc to provide my correct home location. I've reported it to every mapping company at least 3 times a year. You figure after 7 years, it'd be fixed :rolleyes:

let me guess apple got it right ? LIES I TELL YA
 
so google could not put ads in their own crap but the apps today in ios r filled with ads...seriously stop speculating

You don't know that (re: ads)

The main contention was branding from what I've read. Google wanted the app to be Google Maps. Not just Maps. And they also wanted latitude implemented vs find my friends.
 
It's pretty clear that he was talking about the Maps app included with iOS which has alway been made by Apple. Not Google. Google simply supplied the mapping data.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Either way apple ruined people experience by going that apple map route
 
Apple messes up once. TOTAL ****ING DISASTER DOOMSDAY MAYANS WERE RIGHT CLUSTER****.


Meanwhile, Apple designs the first laptop with a retina melting 2880x1800 screen resolution just like nerds were frothing at the mouth for. WHERE IS MY OPTICAL DRIVE!? STEVE JOBS WOULD HAVE KEPT IT.

Apple just can't seem to win with some people.
Once ? LMFAO
 
It's always the lower level rank and file that take the fall. This manager was a scapegoat. His mission was impossible given the competition, time frame, and resources given. Due to Apple's closed nature, it is almost impossible for Apple to catch up.

It doesn't make economical sense for Apple to invest as heavily into maps as Google is able to. Google can allocate the cost of GMaps across far more handsets. Last time I checked, worldwide market share was Android 75% and Apple at 25%, give or take with RIM/WM being insignificant.

Not only that, if GMaps gets approved for iPhones, it will be available on those handsets as well. This is before you even consider google maps usage via website and google earth.

Apple? Apple can only allocate those costs over their own iPads/iPhones and maybe OSX with the apparent convergence.

Makes zero economic sense. Google will get better bang for the buck, so to speak.

Also, doesn't Apple have a Person in Charge concept or what not? The person in charge is Tim Cook. If he didn't personally test drive the iPhone 5, Maps functions and all, he failed in his duties as CEO. That phone is the single largest revenue source for Apple and he didn't know the condition Maps was in? He would be almost negligent in that case.

Odds are that he knew exactly how Maps was. My bet is he underestimated the backlash that would occur and is using his minions as scapegoats.

It is good to be the King.

Call it like it is big man and throw them soldiers under the bus.
 
It's always the lower level rank and file that take the fall. This manager was a scapegoat. His mission was impossible given the competition, time frame, and resources given. Due to Apple's closed nature, it is almost impossible for Apple to catch up.

Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence! :)

There is no reason to assume that he was fired because of the problems with maps. At this point, it is much more likely he was fired because of his inability to come up with or implement a strategy to fix the problems in a way that met the expectations of his boss.
 
Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence! :)

There is no reason to assume that he was fired because of the problems with maps. At this point, it is much more likely he was fired because of his inability to come up with or implement a strategy to fix the problems in a way that met the expectations of his boss.

or a combination of both.

or it could be some other random reason. Maybe he was stealing office supplies. Maybe he leaked information to the press. The reason he's been let go is between he and the company.
 
It's always the lower level rank and file that take the fall. This manager was a scapegoat. His mission was impossible given the competition, time frame, and resources given. Due to Apple's closed nature, it is almost impossible for Apple to catch up.

It doesn't make economical sense for Apple to invest as heavily into maps as Google is able to. Google can allocate the cost of GMaps across far more handsets. Last time I checked, worldwide market share was Android 75% and Apple at 25%, give or take with RIM/WM being insignificant.

Not only that, if GMaps gets approved for iPhones, it will be available on those handsets as well. This is before you even consider google maps usage via website and google earth.

Apple? Apple can only allocate those costs over their own iPads/iPhones and maybe OSX with the apparent convergence.

Makes zero economic sense. Google will get better bang for the buck, so to speak.

Do you realize you're arguing that it makes more economic sense for Google to spread it's mapping costs over the volume of phones/devices which aren't producing a profit for them than it does for Apple to do the same over the swath of phones/devices which *are* producing a profit for them? :confused:

And, according to your lead-in argument, Google never could have caught up with the existing mapping service providers either, so they never should have tried either. :rolleyes:
 
I've seen this kind of post before with snapshots at the same zoom level. With Apple Maps, you need to zoom in to get more detail. Like it or hate it, it means that maps are clear and clutter free until you zoom in for more detail. Here is a zoomed in shot at a portion of the map you've posted.

still a mess compared to google maps but nice try
 
I would rather see Apple smack down the folks responsible for breaking the wifi connection with iOS6. Then there's the continual random loss of text sounds, getting knocked off of 4g and onto the edge network etc. etc.

Sure, Maps may be ugly around the edges, but at least it still holds some functionality. There are several core functions with my iPhone 5 that are just plain broken or just quit out of the blue.
 
This is all I'm saying:
 

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