No. It's running on Catalina. I think I'll wait a few days before crying bloody murder.Oh, your 2014 MBP is running Monterey just fine, huh? Good for you. I guess nobody else matters, whether they have good reason to hold off on the upgrade or not.
No. It's running on Catalina. I think I'll wait a few days before crying bloody murder.Oh, your 2014 MBP is running Monterey just fine, huh? Good for you. I guess nobody else matters, whether they have good reason to hold off on the upgrade or not.
10.13.6 has been out of support for about 2 years now. Even 10.14.6 isn't getting security updates anymore. This isn't new. What is new is that Apple hasn't supplied updates for OS versions that are apparently still getting security updates.And those who cannot legit upgrade past 10.13 are...???
10.13.6 has been out of support for about 2 years now. Even 10.14.6 isn't getting security updates anymore. This isn't new. What is new is that Apple hasn't supplied updates for OS versions that are apparently still getting security updates.
But 11.6.6 is already at rc1 level. I bet 12.4 is no where near that. So I reckon 11.6.6 will be released before 12.4. Not sure about catalina though.The 11.6.6 update and the matching Catalina update are currently on the same schedule as 12.4, so these are unlikely to be released sufficiently soon.
Then the question becomes how to PREVENT this from happening in 10.13.
This is Apple's new pattern. All of the 11.6.x security updates went to beta as release candidates. They haven't called 11.x a beta since 11.5:But 11.6.6 is already at rc1 level. I bet 12.4 is no where near that. So I reckon 11.6.6 will be released before 12.4. Not sure about catalina though.
I would guess the opposite would be true and would drive more sales. I'm sure they'd rather you upgrade on a more frequent basis which mean more frequent hardware purchases. People who have older hardware / software that have reached end-of-life / end-of-support accept that risk and will probably keep using it until "the wheels fall off" and they have no choice but to upgrade.Zero days are Apple’s best friend. Nothing drives new hardware purchases like unpatched security holes in older software
Apple, a nearly $3 trillion company, with limited engineering resources? 🤣Every company has limited engineering resources and Apple is no different.
Ideally, everything is updated at the same time with no bugs. Realistically, Apple needs to focus on the latest OS and most recent devices.
By upgrading.
How is it that a smaller company like Microsoft can offer a much longer support window than Apple? Take a look at Windows 10. It came out on Jul 29, 2015 and Microsoft will be supporting it until Oct 14, 2025
These are zero day vulnerabilities that are actively being exploited. Meaning that the longer apple goes without releasing a fix, the more at risk big sur and earlier users are… those users could be sitting ducks.Thank you for providing the data. My initial reaction was that I thought gaps of a few days were not unprecedented. So hopefully that's all it is. But they can get more hype and clicks if it is presented as a new thing.
Apple’s communication on this has always been mom & pop. Given its size now this situation is extremely unprofessional.Apple is more and more pushing users to use the latest OS. That they removed the option to hide the nagging notification of new OS versions with a security update was just the start. Just providing a single patch for iOS 14 after the iOS 15 launch after promising 'it would continue to receive update' was a big FU to users.
I'm using a lot of apps that are too complex to be fully compatible with a new OS on day one, so I'm still running Big Sur. I'm not sure why Apple isn't updating Big Sur and Catalina. They really should communicate about it, but Apple's communication is lacking lately. I don't see why they can't backport the fixes with minimal effort certainly if they're actively exploited.
The current version of Windows 10 still runs on computers that were made years before the 2015 release of Windows 10.The Windows 10 that came out in 2015 hasn’t been supported since 2017.
Playing with fire?And those who cannot legit upgrade past 10.13 are...???
Just installed Windows 10 32 bit on my Mac Pro 1,1 and it works well and runs 2022 browsers and software. Sad it’s come to this.The current version of Windows 10 still runs on computers that were made years before the 2015 release of Windows 10.
For systems running those older versions of operating systems, I'm sure the macOS operating system is not the only vulnerable aspect. There are probably older versions of applications that can't be updated / upgraded that also have vulnerabilities that the owner may not be aware of. I have an iMac that I got a good 9 years before Apple dropped support for it. It runs macOS Catilina I still use it for non-critical things. By continuing to use (for non-critical things) that's a risk I'm accepting. I don't blame Apple for not providing software updates for an 11 year old system.One simple reason exists and that’s planned obsolescence. I notice you all didn’t even mention whether older OSes are affected too, like high Sierra or Mojave. Many macs got the boot when Mojave and Catalina were announced, and are stuck on high Sierra or earlier and are probably vulnerable too.
Yes yes. Users using legacy software = bad. People should have known better than to build their workflows around software published by small niche companies and were doomed to be abandoned. You know, like that weird, niche software publisher that invented Aperture.For systems running those older versions of operating systems, I'm sure the macOS operating system is not the only vulnerable aspect. There are probably older versions of applications that can't be updated / upgraded that also have vulnerabilities that the owner may not be aware of.
For those of us with older systems not in the Monterey fold may find extra life using open core patcher.
My 2012 MBP actually runs Monterey quite well even using a mechanical drive, even faster using SSD