Right. That's not market economics. And knowing that you don't believe in market economics makes this conversation pointless.
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Apple Gets EU Warning to Open iOS to Third-Party Connected Devices
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They probably would at some point if Spotify dominated more areas with lock in’s. I think the EU is pushing to reduce artificial lock in’s.
I don’t necassarily agree with everything (for example the app store), but opening up API’s for other watches would definately make sense.
Hold on. Apple's ecosystem has its problems, but for the most part, the hardware and software works well together. One of the reasons I'm in the Apple ecosystem is for this interoperability. I shouldn't have to switch away from Apple because the EU wants to dictate to Apple which products from other company's MUST work with Apple's hardware and software.
If the EU wants that, it should feel free to build its own ecosystem. At what point does Apple get to decide what to do with ITS OWN property, rather than having the EU make those decisions?
If apple wants to sell to a large group of citizens, they should buy some land and setup a county.
It's the American brainwashing they've been subjected to. The only way to overcome a ban on slavery is to condition people to think that corporations are their masters who can do as they please.
Apple is allowed to use iPhone mirroring on windows if Apple wants too. I personally would applaud the move if Apple wrote the software for doing so.
Would be a great user experience for iPhone users where the majority works with windows over here.
Android is also in the works making that a possibility. If Apple was able to let that happen with iPhone first, it would be a great selling point for iPhone/Apple 😊
Seriously? You're that superior to me and the argments? Or you can't answer my to my point of view so you reduce me to a slave? Nice.
Right. Which would be Apple's choice. Not the choice of the EU dictating how Apple operates.
But again, that's market economics. Which apparently you don't believe in.
Did I say any of that, or did you make this about you?
These "hacks" should take a look at Microsoft and it's monopolistic tactics with their Office 365 apps. Offering "free access" to institutions to have them locked in redundant SaaS contracts, hampering interoperability etc. What Microsoft is doing with Teams, Sharepoint and MS Office apps is horrible. But hey, Apple is a good scapegoat I guess
There is market economics and market abuse. The abusers get punished 😜
Right I agree Apple should be able to provide special hardware or APIs to give their companion products a bespoke UX. (think AirPods pairing).
I’m a free market libertarian.
But all that agreed I don’t think this prohibits that from what I understand of it. Apple dont need to provide the client hardware for that stuff.
Also, I still don’t see them leaving the EU.
Do you disagree?
I believe in market economics when there is a fair playing field. And I applaud the EU to step in when market economics becomes market abuse. Wether it’s Microsoft, google, or some stupid Dutch cheese company 😂😂
Ok focus on the small countries and not the rich countries with 10’s of millions of people
The tech that is not available yet, but, for example, Apple just got clearance to start using APP2 as a hearing aid, so, the EU is now demanding that Apple opens up their system to allow Sony, Samsung and whoever to turn their earbuds into hearing aids? Seriously? EU users just won’t be able to get that stuff in the future…
Yeah man but you're arguing like Apple is a country of its own, since you're clearly treating them and the EU as similar entities.
You follow your own interests, not Apple's, not the EU's. It's not your fault that Apple is doing stuff, but you don't have to defend them as if you have stocks in the company.
Watch what the EU keeps saying; they want Apple to adhere to the "spirit" of the law. The desire of the EU is to create a level playing field; Apple can't do anything that isn't immediately available to any competitor. This is the antithesis of market economics.
Do I think Apple will leave the EU? I think Apple will modify their offerings in the EU such that it doesn't harm their business worldwide. I'd support Apple giving EU citizens a watered-down IOS. Because in the end, I think if pushed, EU
Apple customers prefer Apple over the EUs DMA. I think Apple should call their bluff.
At this point, Apple should tell the EU to GFY and pull all of their devices and let their people suffer. The demand from the customers in the EU will put the pressure on the EU to change its tyrannical approach. if the EU wants these things, build your own devices and OS and market. You don't get to dictate to another company who spends their resources and time designing a product and then levy fines because you don't like their business model. If the customers don't like it, they can go buy crappy Androids.
I’m finding the comparisons to Physical products frustrating as they clearly don’t under the intention of the law is not to address market share.
It should also be noted that just because Apple opens an API doesn’t mean third parties will develop the capabilities eg. Apple opened up access to Air Play 2 to satisfy Spotify’s constant complaints yet they have never used the API in there software unlike YouTube music, pandora etc.
The approach required by the DMA is not that different to when Microsoft installed IE as the default browser which led to a lot of people never installing Netscape etc because MS was the dominant OS software aka a gateway.
Every company approaches compliance with Laws/regulations/standards differently. Some companies take an aggressive approach to legal issues, other take a conservative approach. Same thing with Tax compliance, privacy compliance, accounting reporting. The DMA is no different
Competition is always good for customers it reduces prices forces more innovation to distinguish your product. I also don’t buy the security concerns around open API’s all that is required is for Apple to build secure API’s for the OS and then they use the same API to develop/connect their own products
It should also be noted that just because Apple opens an API doesn’t mean third parties will develop the capabilities eg. Apple opened up access to Air Play 2 to satisfy Spotify’s constant complaints yet they have never used the API in there software unlike YouTube music, pandora etc.
The approach required by the DMA is not that different to when Microsoft installed IE as the default browser which led to a lot of people never installing Netscape etc because MS was the dominant OS software aka a gateway.
Every company approaches compliance with Laws/regulations/standards differently. Some companies take an aggressive approach to legal issues, other take a conservative approach. Same thing with Tax compliance, privacy compliance, accounting reporting. The DMA is no different
Competition is always good for customers it reduces prices forces more innovation to distinguish your product. I also don’t buy the security concerns around open API’s all that is required is for Apple to build secure API’s for the OS and then they use the same API to develop/connect their own products