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Apple offers employee discounts on iPhone. Are iPhone sales being propped up by employees? Please think this through, considering the number of iPhones Apple sells every day of the year, and the number of Apple employees.
What if when the iPhone was launched, there were only a rumoured 80,000 available to purchase?
 
What if when the iPhone was launched, there were only a rumoured 80,000 available to purchase?

If that were to happen today for the next iPhone, I suspect the employees responsible for that would be let go.

I can't speak to the first iPhone back in 2007 not knowing the demand and production capacity.

A better question would be: If Apple only offers employee discounts to prop up demand, why is Apple still offering iPhone employee discounts (along with all of their other products) when they're cranking out 600,000+ iPhones per day, every day of the year (on the average)?
 
Its not like you can find it a few week afterwards at Walmart, Amazon and co. for that price. So dad people really think Apple is doing them something good with that..
 
Still wouldn't buy it with a discount.. and retail employees will still not be able to afford it! Only managers or corporate employees but they still have to provide for families and pay the rent etc..
 
So minions have the privilege of giving their employer over $AU3k and HQ managers and upper level get the devices free for "testing" purposes. Great deal if your a shareholder 👌👍
 
At this point, Apple has fully demonstrated putting profit over innovation, especially since Cook has taken over.

If apple were no longer innovating in a manner that was meaningful to its customers, why they are they continuing to buy Apple products?

It makes more sense to reason that the main reason why Apple remains as popular and profitable as it is is precisely because their innovations continue to resonate with their user base. Contrast this with folding phones. Tech blogs gush over them, but it seems like few are actually buying them.

There’s innovation, and there’s meaningful innovation.
 
So all those being re-sold as 'new and sealed' online soon will be from Apple Employee's cashing in on their investment!......
 
You know if employees could get essentially $900 off a Vision Pro, makes you wonder why the damn headset doesn't even cost that price for normal customers. $3500 is absurd, $2500 is an easier pill to swallow.
because there are perks to being an employee and being an entitled consumer doesn’t mean you should get that too.
 
The standard discount isn’t 50 those were offered as one time special employee promotions.
Yeah, I meant standard for a new product category introduction, at least that’s how I read it.
 
If apple were no longer innovating in a manner that was meaningful to its customers, why they are they continuing to buy Apple products?

It makes more sense to reason that the main reason why Apple remains as popular and profitable as it is is precisely because their innovations continue to resonate with their user base. Contrast this with folding phones. Tech blogs gush over them, but it seems like few are actually buying them.

There’s innovation, and there’s meaningful innovation.
Oh I agree, Apple is still innovative. It’s just that profit is more important to them now. It used to be the other way around.
 
Not necessarily. The first iPad Pro got eight years of support. I think that Apple takes support of Pro products more seriously.
That’s not how I’m defining a new product. I’m talking about the first generation of a new device category. I’m sure by your standard the first iPad Air got plenty of support too.
 
This explains the optimistic sales projections and helps to manufacture demand, i.e. long wait times :p

Can the employees sell their AVP on eBay for JUST $3500 for personal profit?
No. They are prohibited from selling it at a profit for one year. People has been fired for doing so.
 
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Still too expensive for an M2 with 256GB of storage for a heavy device that has a couple hours of battery life and requires a battery pack in your pocket with a wire that is only kind of okay as a computer that is mostly for watching videos and is supposedly for gaming but I have no idea how it's going to crank out two displays at over 4K resolution at 90Hz with an M2 unless it runs at less than 90Hz in which case it will give you motion sickness because that's how most human brains work.

Maybe I'll pick one up in 5 years if it's decently spec'd and there are companies making apps for it. I see this thing Homepoding and the only Apple product since the iPhone that I've predicted would have poor sales is the HomePod, which did until it got discontinued and then awhile later they released a cheaper version that isn't quite as nice but still isn't a big seller.

I've said it before but I think Apple missed the mark by not making this thing an accessory to the iPhone, iPad and Mac. I doubt wireless video is capable of this yet but maybe they should've waited. Using the iPhone, iPad, or Mac as the brains would've enabled a much lighter headset, and maybe they could've just offered an option to plug it into them over USB-C/TB and not even need a battery pack?. Imagine an Apple Vision Pro that you just plug into the USB-C on your iPhone Pro in your pocket. Maybe wait a year until the iPhone Pro can power it, and let it be used on M2 and A18 Pro devices and up. Cut the external display, the M2 chip, and that makes it a lot lighter and cheaper and it runs off the device's battery. Charge $1499 for it. BOOM.
The Vision Pro is a prosumer XR headset; the iPhone’s chip doesn’t have the processing nor battery power to power this device without substantial drawbacks.

Adding a comparable R1 chip to the iPhone is going to add costs to the phone a whole lot of people wouldn’t appreciate.

A Quest level low-end experience years later maybe makes sense to be done in the matter you’re saying.

That’s a mediocre XR experience than what can be had from the Vision Pro that may be successful if people hate Meta that much perhaps
 

Based on Yahoo finance, their profit margin is 25.31%, but operating margin is 30.13%.

That seems closer. I’d expect at least a 30% operating margin.
 
Apple offers employee discounts on iPhone. Are iPhone sales being propped up by employees? Please think this through, considering the number of iPhones Apple sells every day of the year, and the number of Apple employees.

That’s an absolutely invalid and disingenuous point. The iPhone is already a wildly successful product. Apple makes them in the hundreds of millions. They have no need to burnish the reputation of their flagship product. Everyone already knows about it and either has or wants one.

Vision on the other hand is a new product that needs to establish a reputation. Because it clearly has little “sizzle” for average people Apple has to get evangelists out there talking about how great it is. What’s the best way to do that? Make sure there are only enough at launch for those who are HIGHLY motivated to buy one and likely to overlook many downsides once they have it. Remember, they’ve only made a few thousand of these.
 
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That’s an absolutely invalid and disingenuous point. The iPhone is already a wildly successful product. Apple makes them in the hundreds of millions. They have no need to burnish the reputation of their flagship product. Everyone already knows about it and either has or wants one.

Vision on the other hand is a new product that needs to establish a reputation. Because it clearly has little “sizzle” for average people Apple has to get evangelists out there talking about how great it is. What’s the best way to do that? Make sure there are only enough at launch for those who are HIGHLY motivated to buy one and likely to overlook many downsides once they have it. Remember, they’ve only made a few hundred thousand of these.

You totally missed my point and went for the dig.

Relax.
 
Apple has around 160,000 employees, so if half of them buy a Vision Pro, that’ll cover the initial shipment of 80,000 units. ;)

Not exactly sure what that would mean for Apple’s bottom line. 🤔
Exactly thank you for your choice of words and demeanor. No way a front line employee can afford these.
 
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