They've all been promising this under 3 different names for years now. Utter BS. Open it up for whats there already, we all know these things work as third parties have managed to step in to accomplish this.
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Apple, Google, and Amazon Delay Launch of 'Matter' Smart Home Standard Until 2022
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Huge disappointment- was holding off on some items thinking they would see updates with Matter this summer or early fall.
I highly doubt they’ll offer Matter as a firmware update to existing products.
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I highly doubt they’ll offer Matter as a firmware update to existing products.
So close, no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trusting who we are
And nothing else matters.
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Yes thankfully, well at least Phillips has said they will release a firmware update for their smart products like Hue once Matter is released to make the transition 'seamless'.
Google will do the same with existing Hub and Hub Max's so they can control Matter devices, and they'll update the latest gen Nest thermostat.
Still a huge question mark over the vast majority of existing smart home products though, and I bet they do some products, while leaving others out so people basically are all enrolled into Matter on release, then they're incentivised to sell and replace some of the non Matter tech. Will be a dirty that way I think - devices that could be update simply won't in order to upsell.
They may yet update them, though leave out the earlier versions from any firmware update. They will want at least some tech enrolled into Matter on release in order to upsell others. The new Nest will definitely be getting a Matter firmware update.
Yeah this is very true. I just feel really let down that hue aren’t going to be supporting thread/matter even though the hardware is there, only on the hub which is useless, one of the benefits of it in the first place is you don’t need a different hub for every company which is very annoying. Hopefully it will take off and become the gold standard, all the pieces are there for it to be amazing
Very true, but hue seems bent on forcing us to keep using their hubs and ecosystem, which is why I’m moving on from them. I guess they make more money selling hubs, they have pledged support for matter but only on the hub which brings zero benefit if the bulbs themselves can’t communicate with other thread stuff
I wonder what it means for me since I own everything HomeKit.
Will it continue to work?
Will it respond faster?
Will I continue to see "Not responding" errors?
Will it be more reliable?
Will it allow for more automations?
Will I need to keep my hubs ? (Arlo, Philips)
Will it continue to work?
Will it respond faster?
Will I continue to see "Not responding" errors?
Will it be more reliable?
Will it allow for more automations?
Will I need to keep my hubs ? (Arlo, Philips)
It’s literally everything apple not to have the new features with out buying the new product. Literally everything
It's kind of nice to be able to hit one button, then have all six floor lamps in one room dim for watching a movie. It's kind of fun to be able to click on a button and have all the lights in the dining room and the kitchen turn on bright or tune down. It's kind of fun to program your bedroom lights as an alarm clock. They come on dim five minutes before your wake up time, then bright, right when your cell phone alarms goes off.
It's not so fun when a thunderstorm causes a power blip and it turns on every single light in your house. I have been meaning to program a button that I can put next to the bed that shuts off every light.
Offering new features is different from dropping support for existing homekit accessories and hubs.
Those clowns are not going to “help” this (or anything for that matter)
I don’t think Apple would be involved if there was anything shady about it. I dislike Apple at times but I trust them more than most with my privacy. They would drop out if there was any chance of negative PR about privacy. Their entire data philosophy is “everyone has a right to privacy” and they’ve worked hard to build that image. They’re not going to risk it on this of all things.
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No offense, but where have you been the last couple of weeks?
Homebridge works okay with the limited volume of devices I have that are not compatible with HomeKit. Could be better, could be worse.
Matter = Apple HomeKit way of thinking thrown into an alliance with Google and co, stands for essentially cross-platform compatibility. It‘s mainly for having vendors only implement one standard (Matter) which works in all of the major Home automation frameworks. That‘s pretty much the biggest advantage Matter has.
More reliable experience mostly stems from using the Thread protocol, which allows any Thread enabled equipment to band together to a mesh network to relay data. That‘s what probably helps with „Not responding“. That‘s been in iOS 14 already though and requires hardware compatibility (HomePod mini and latest Apple TV 4k are the only Apple Home hubs that can do Thread).
If you actively follow iOS 15 betas, especially read the release notes, you already saw this article coming. They‘re this close to launching iOS 15 and yet the Home app known issues section is 10+ bullet points long with mind boggling issues like Matter accessories not working if your Apple TV is on wifi (workaround: plug into Ethernet). You can sum up the known issues list of iOS 15 beta release notes as „Matter: The Thread (featuring FaceTime woes)“.
No one will seriously install this stuff in buildings until you can walk into Home Depot and buy a carton of switches or sockets for $20 and have some expectation they will still be useful and available in 30 years.
The gadgets are just toys for rich people until it because PERVASIVE in the industry. Until then a few enthusiasts will place a few of them in their own homes. But no one will actually use then in (say) a newly constructed condo complex until there is one standard and you can buy it at every electrical supply company for $2 per unit.
The gadgets are just toys for rich people until it because PERVASIVE in the industry. Until then a few enthusiasts will place a few of them in their own homes. But no one will actually use then in (say) a newly constructed condo complex until there is one standard and you can buy it at every electrical supply company for $2 per unit.
We‘re a month away from the keynote, which means Apple is already closing in on a RC that probably is internally finalized in the next 2 weeks. Anyone expecting big strides in any department is in for a bad time / rude awakening.
That being said iOS 15 is pretty good already.