Apple Has 500 Employees in Korea, Supports 325,000 Jobs in Country

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Apple today revealed job creation figures in South Korea for the first time since entering the country two decades ago, as noted by The Korea Herald.


In a new page on its website, Apple says it has created and supports 325,000 jobs in South Korea, including 500 direct employees, 125,000 jobs through partners in the country like component manufacturers and product distributors, and 200,000 jobs through the App Store ecosystem.

Apple's direct employees in the country include designers, customer service representatives, marketing specialists, hardware and software engineers, and retail staff at its Garosugil store in Seoul.

Apple adds that Korean developers have earned 4.7 trillion won in worldwide revenue through the App Store since 2008.

Last week, Apple claimed that it now supports 2.4 million jobs in the United States.

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I don’t understand the negativity here. Apple can, and should, be proud about what they have accomplished worldwide. That to me personally is far better than any other company that I know about.

Few other examples. For the UK and the rest of Europe the link is:

https://www.apple.com/uk/job-creation/

For Japan the link is:

https://www.apple.com/jp/job-creation/


Just look at those numbers. Astonishing!
 

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I don’t understand the negativity here. Apple can, and should, be proud about what they have accomplished worldwide. That to me personally is far better than any other company that I know about.

Few other examples. For the UK and the rest of Europe the link is:

https://www.apple.com/uk/job-creation/

For Japan the link is:

https://www.apple.com/jp/job-creation/


Just look at those numbers. Astonishing!
You forget the narrative here. Anything Apple is bad, period, no matter what it is. Get in the program man. /s
 
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Software engineers are going to make apps regardless of platform. Apple didn't create those jobs any more than Microsoft.

If people shifted away from iOS to Android or Linux or something not yet created, those jobs will still exist making apps for another OS.
If people shifted away, it would be to another platform. And that means whoever develops that platform would be responsible for maintaining a robust ecosystem if it were to create jobs or support jobs.

How about Blackberry? They make tablets and phones. How many developers are making apps for Blackberry tablets? Like 5? Clearly the platform does matter.
 

Ronald Schoedel

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What? Where did Apple take credit for creating Samsung jobs?
I don’t know if Apple took credit. But they should! It Samsung is selling 40% more displays than they would without Apple, then clearly Apple is responsible for at least some of those jobs.

On the other hand, if we are to believe those who threaten to switch to Samsung every time Apple displeases them, Apple is also responsible for creating more Samsung jobs there! :)
 

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Software engineers are going to make apps regardless of platform. Apple didn't create those jobs any more than Microsoft.

If people shifted away from iOS to Android or Linux or something not yet created, those jobs will still exist making apps for another OS.
if I want to create an app but only anticipate selling 100 copies on Android, I'll code it alone in my basement. But if I have an app that I believe will sell 10,000 copies, I'll hire a team to code it for me. Those jobs would not have been created for a lesser platform, therefore Apple could take credit for them.
 
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I don't get why Apple feels like they need to do this at all. Yes, they create jobs the world over… as does every other manufacturer with a global presence.

If they feel it is important to mention such things I wonder what percentage of the total annual wage, and more importantly bonuses, expenditure of the company. My guess is the top 10% make 90% of the total… no different to the world over. Had they not said anything I wouldn't have had this thought.
 

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I don’t know if Apple took credit. But they should! It Samsung is selling 40% more displays than they would without Apple, then clearly Apple is responsible for at least some of those jobs.

On the other hand, if we are to believe those who threaten to switch to Samsung every time Apple displeases them, Apple is also responsible for creating more Samsung jobs there! :)
Logic fail on the display point. Your assumption is only valid if the people buying the Apple products with the Samsung displays if those people refused to buy a device from anyone but Apple (if Apple ceased operations immediately) - highly unlikely. There’s a worldwide demand for devices with displays whether Apple is in business or not.
 

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I like how Apple takes credit for creating those Samsung jobs. The marketing spin is real
So is the reality that Apple creates millions of jobs.
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Logic fail on the display point. Your assumption is only valid if the people buying the Apple products with the Samsung displays if those people refused to buy a device from anyone but Apple (if Apple ceased operations immediately) - highly unlikely. There’s a worldwide demand for devices with displays whether Apple is in business or not.
Your logic is equally silly. It's like saying if Apple didn't exist at all, people would find other solutions so Apple actually creates 0 jobs.

Of course the market would take care of producing what people want without Apple, but the fact Apple exists creates the jobs. You can throw out an infinite amount of scenarios to redistribute the Apple buyers if Apple ceased to exist, but they did indeed exist and thus create millions of jobs.
 
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Logic fail on the display point. Your assumption is only valid if the people buying the Apple products with the Samsung displays if those people refused to buy a device from anyone but Apple (if Apple ceased operations immediately) - highly unlikely. There’s a worldwide demand for devices with displays whether Apple is in business or not.
I think its a little of both. If Apple requires 100 million displays from Samsung then Apple is responsible for jobs and infrastructure to produce those display. That said, given that logic Apple isn't responsible for anything at all as its their customers that are the ones that are ultimately responsible for creating those jobs. If the customers didn't buy Apple devices with those Samsung displays Apple wouldn't be making any devices.

Yes, Apple can take credit for job creation worldwide. Anyone who argues that needs a small slap on the back of the head. The way Apple are portraying is though over the top and for that Apple needs a small slap on the back of the head.
 
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I don’t understand the negativity here. Apple can, and should, be proud about what they have accomplished worldwide. That to me personally is far better than any other company that I know about.

Few other examples. For the UK and the rest of Europe the link is:

https://www.apple.com/uk/job-creation/

For Japan the link is:

https://www.apple.com/jp/job-creation/


Just look at those numbers. Astonishing!
UK has lots! Not surprising considering ARM is a British firm, i imagine they work closely with the Apple employees there.
 

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The notion that Apple is responsible for 325,000 jobs there is laughable on its face. They are clearly trying to engender good will before the antitrust charges are delivered. I hope you were at least paid something for the headline.
 
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I don’t understand the negativity here. Apple can, and should, be proud about what they have accomplished worldwide. That to me personally is far better than any other company that I know about.

Few other examples. For the UK and the rest of Europe the link is:

https://www.apple.com/uk/job-creation/

For Japan the link is:

https://www.apple.com/jp/job-creation/


Just look at those numbers. Astonishing!
Apple *should* be proud of what they've accomplished. So should every other company that creates jobs. The issue I have is the ratio of 'real jobs' (employees) to 'net jobs'.. It's like me saying that because I like to travel there are 500 people that would have been out of work this year if I hadn't taken a vacation. It might be true that there were 500 people directly and indirectly providing services, but it is more than a bit disingenuous to take create.

One can successfully argue that Apple has created a massive supply chain making and assembling components for the iDevices line. That would be fair. It's equally fair to say that Samsung has invested in and built a large manufacturing organization building and assembling parts for Apple.

Do both organizations get some credit? I think so.

Do both companies get to published 'effective job' numbers? IMO... no.

If they did, each employee would be counted twice. Then what about Samsung's smartphone division? Do they get to count those jobs too? How many manufacturers, suppliers, shippers, etc. get to claim those jobs? Who get's to decide that?

What happens when we start aggregating all of the 'net jobs" and find that in spite of only 7.5 billion people on the planet, there are 12 billion people employed? Given that the aggregation is meaningless, what meaning should be applied to the individual line items?
 

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I don’t understand the negativity here. Apple can, and should, be proud about what they have accomplished worldwide.
I think the key point is whether people really believe the word bolded above. If you do believe it hook line and sinker, then you would applaud them. If you don't, then you'd have a negative reaction calling Apple out for lying.
 

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It's like saying if Apple didn't exist at all, people would find other solutions so Apple actually creates 0 jobs.
This is close to the truth. If you are compelled to say any single thing "creates" jobs, it is demand, not individual companies. The real reason people keep talking past each other is the false narrative of any single thing or entity creating jobs. Jobs result from a complex interaction of demand, government, corporations, innovation, etc.

When I see Apple claim credit for jobs at other companies I recognize it for what it is: false and cynical self promotion.
 

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This is close to the truth. If you are compelled to say any single thing "creates" jobs, it is demand, not individual companies. The real reason people keep talking past each other is the false narrative of any single thing or entity creating jobs. Jobs result from a complex interaction of demand, government, corporations, innovation, etc.

When I see Apple claim credit for jobs at other companies I recognize it for what it is: false and cynical self promotion.
It's just a cynical mindset. Apple is a fantastic company that employs thousands directly and millions indirectly.

Apple can claim credit for managing their company well, which enables them to stay in business and employ these people.