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Absolutely agree, I fully expect to be able to open PyCharm, VS Code, etc. as my open apps. If not, it'll be returned after toying with it for 14 days.

Same. If Apple wants to screw around by not figuring out arguably the most important use case, they can eat the cost of a returned unit.

maybe you already know about this and im sooo sorry if you do! BUT if it helps to know, i use blink app with mosh on my ipad and vscode.dev with vscode remote turned on from my mac studio. It totally lets me code nicely on my ipad unless im doing iOS development and need xcode!
 
You cannot. It’s only one Mac screen.

You can however pair the Mac screen with multiple Vision Pro apps and create a multi monitor set up that way.
 
You cannot. It’s only one Mac screen.

You can however pair the Mac screen with multiple Vision Pro apps and create a multi monitor set up that way.
The audacity to skip 50 posts and post something that’s already been said 10 times.
 
Does anyone know how “pinned” workspaces are geographically?

Meaning if I open a pages and numbers window at my desk, it works there, and I can go to my kitchen, and maybe I pinned a stock ticker window to my fridge. Will they stay there between sessions. So I slowly create a virtual world of pinned screens and augmentations to my house that I can only see with the goggles? Maybe I replace one of my windows with a “virtual window” screensaver that shows the Grand Canyon? Or have one window that shows a live camera view of London, the next, Munich, the next Shanghai, the next tokyo, as a kind of weather and global time app?

Or does your work setup follow you as you walk around?

I could see wanting to make screens/views that are permanently locked to a geographical/geometry, while others I would want to follow me spaced relative to me.

Does anyone know if that kind of pinning to a geography vs to my person exists as a concept in the UI?
 
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In demonstrations, you typically see the Mac’s screen being mirrored only. If the Vision Pro was capable of supporting the bandwidth required for more than two monitors, Apple would likely have highlighted this feature, considering the popularity of multi-monitor setups. It appears that we may need to wait for the M6 or M7 chips for such capability. Notably, even the basic MacBook models currently do not support more than one external monitor via a wired connection. As it stands, we have to rely on the somewhat unreliable AirPlay wireless protocol to connect our Mac screens to the Vision Pro. This often results in issues like dropped frames and jittery displays, a common experience for those who have tried extending their display to an iPad.
From what I've seen, There is an app view and each app, once opened, gets displayed side by side, so one would move your head or gesture to move between apps. I do not think monitor best fits what Vision Pro is doing. The device is the monitor. But maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying.
 
You cannot. It’s only one Mac screen.

You can however pair the Mac screen with multiple Vision Pro apps and create a multi monitor set up that way.
I imagine you’d only be able to connect one at a time though? Time will tell
 
Does anyone know how “pinned” workspaces are geographically?

Meaning if I open a pages and numbers window at my desk, it works there, and I can go to my kitchen, and maybe I pinned a stock ticker window to my fridge. Will they stay there between sessions. So I slowly create a virtual world of pinned screens and augmentations to my house that I can only see with the goggles? Maybe I replace one of my windows with a “virtual window” screensaver that shows the Grand Canyon? Or have one window that shows a live camera view of London, the next, Munich, the next Shanghai, the next tokyo, as a kind of weather and global time app?

Or does your work setup follow you as you walk around?

I could see wanting to make screens/views that are permanently locked to a geographical/geometry, while others I would want to follow me spaced relative to me.

Does anyone know if that kind of pinning to a geography vs to my person exists as a concept in the UI?
Yes, by default the AVP scans the *room* you are in, and builds a 3D floor map. Within that you can pin apps/widgets in physical space and leave it there.

There’s a wwdc video explaining this, it explicitly shows devs the API call to continue scanning and build out more spaces (say for instance you walk down your hallway to another part of the house).

It’s a neat video, if I have time today I’ll see if I can locate it again.
 
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World anchors are going to be important. Anytime I use the Measure app to draw lines in 3D space, only to have them move off kilter even by a mm, is embarrassing. It shows the render is being localized only with the sensors itself and not locked to the environment. I’d hate to move my head around, have the Vision Pro miss a few frames of its own spatial data measurements, and have that result in your workspace tilted slightly from where it should be.
 
Does anyone know how “pinned” workspaces are geographically?

Meaning if I open a pages and numbers window at my desk, it works there, and I can go to my kitchen, and maybe I pinned a stock ticker window to my fridge. Will they stay there between sessions. So I slowly create a virtual world of pinned screens and augmentations to my house that I can only see with the goggles? Maybe I replace one of my windows with a “virtual window” screensaver that shows the Grand Canyon? Or have one window that shows a live camera view of London, the next, Munich, the next Shanghai, the next tokyo, as a kind of weather and global time app?

Or does your work setup follow you as you walk around?

I could see wanting to make screens/views that are permanently locked to a geographical/geometry, while others I would want to follow me spaced relative to me.

Does anyone know if that kind of pinning to a geography vs to my person exists as a concept in the UI?

Yes, by default the AVP scans the *room* you are in, and builds a 3D floor map. Within that you can pin apps/widgets in physical space and leave it there.

There’s a wwdc video explaining this, it explicitly shows devs the API call to continue scanning and build out more spaces (say for instance you walk down your hallway to another part of the house).

It’s a neat video, if I have time today I’ll see if I can locate it again.

Why stop at the room, have screens setup all around the house, in the back yard, down the street, setup billboards along your route to work, etc. Hell, just never take off the AVP. I'm starting to get Apple's plan. ;)
 
Why stop at the room, have screens setup all around the house, in the back yard, down the street, setup billboards along your route to work, etc. Hell, just never take off the AVP. I'm starting to get Apple's plan. ;)

I think I noted that in my examples. Office. Kitchen. Living room windows. Office at work. And yea, even out door places like with games that are treasure hunts or something, with true geographic pins. Would be super cool. You can augment every actual environment youre in, with your own virtual one.

For examples, many screens can be embedded on your desk, as if they are papers on your desk.
 
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As for the 1 monitor argument. Sure, it's only 1 monitor. But...

Let's say you currently run dual 27" monitors on your desktop. It's not entirely clear that you couldn't run the equivalent of a 54" monitor from your Mac on the AVP, and run different app windows on the different halves of that 54" monitor on the AVP.
 
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I think I noted that in my examples. Office. Kitchen. Living room windows. Office at work. And yea, even out door places like with games that are treasure hunts or something, with true geographic pins. Would be super cool. You can augment every actual environment youre in, with your own virtual one.
If it doesn't work natively, that would be a great app for someone to develop. Remember your spaces and remember how you like the screens to be set in those spaces.
 
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As for the 1 monitor argument. Sure, it's only 1 monitor. But...

Let's say you currently run dual 27" monitors on your desktop. It's not entirely clear that you couldn't run the equivalent of a 54" monitor from your Mac on the AVP, and run different app windows on the different halves of that 54" monitor on the AVP.

My understanding is that the monitor you may emulate (ie screencast of your mac screen) is limited to real world 4k resolution. Sure you could blow it up to be huge or shrink it to appear tiny or far away, but the actual resolution within the window is limited to 4k.

Hopefully that improves in future software/hardware releases and it's not a terrible starting point.

One other thing I hope becomes possible is something like Parallels Coherence mode. Where instead of seeing my mac desktop, individual apps can be run and appear as individual apps inside my AVP environment. So despite it running remote on the mac, it will just appear like a 'regular' AVP app to me. That essentially could give you 'limitless' resolution inside the AVP environment/workspace.
 
My understanding is that the monitor you may emulate (ie screencast of your mac screen) is limited to real world 4k resolution. Sure you could blow it up to be huge or shrink it to appear tiny or far away, but the actual resolution within the window is limited to 4k.

Hopefully that improves in future software/hardware releases and it's not a terrible starting point.
Well...I don't think we know yet exactly how that translates on these screens. And, I don't currently work on a 4k monitor, and I don't find my monitor disappointing in any way.
 
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Well...I don't think we know yet exactly how that translates on these screens. And, I don't currently work on a 4k monitor, and I don't find my monitor disappointing in any way.

Well I have currently use one 8k display and 3 2.5k displays on my mac. So one 4k would be a very small space for doing my mac work in AR/VR. Will be interesting to see what can be pieced together between the native apps and screen casting the 4k mac screen.
 
As for the 1 monitor argument. Sure, it's only 1 monitor. But...

Let's say you currently run dual 27" monitors on your desktop. It's not entirely clear that you couldn't run the equivalent of a 54" monitor from your Mac on the AVP, and run different app windows on the different halves of that 54" monitor on the AVP.
Clearly the limitation is the number of pixels that can be driven wirelessly. Not the arbitrary number of monitors
 
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Hm, well since we can run iPad apps, I would think/hope that includes apps like Duet that allow the iPad to function as a second Mac monitor. I've already used it a couple times and found it worthwhile when traveling... if I can have my main Mac monitor as the "single monitor" native on VP and also run the Duet iPad app then I could have a double-monitor Mac setup in Vision Pro... anyone think Apple might hobble that?
 
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Is this a technical limitation? Do you think this is something they can accomodate with an update... Eventualy?
 
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