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Maxwells_Equations

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Ok so a little click bait...but hear me out and let me know your thoughts.

Apple releases the M1, a "taste" or "tease" for the M line. Come spring if they release other superior chips it can be argued the same people who just upgraded will upgrade again.

No fault of anyone, we all went crazy over the M1....and rightfully so....it is impressive, new, and efficient....a breath of fresh air.

I mean bravo apple...bravo.
 

Fthree

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I wouldn't exactly say everyone with upgrade again. The same could be said for every MacBook release apple does anyway. This M1 chip has been amazing and definitely has changed my workflow. Before it coming out I was ready to press buy on a highly spec 16 but after seeing I could essentially get the same amount of power in a smaller form factor I was hooked.
 

Maxwells_Equations

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I wouldn't exactly say everyone with upgrade again. The same could be said for every MacBook release apple does anyway. This M1 chip has been amazing and definitely has changed my workflow. Before it coming out I was ready to press buy on a highly spec 16 but after seeing I could essentially get the same amount of power in a smaller form factor I was hooked.
The M1 absolutely does not have the same processing power or graphical power of a top spec 16" MBP.

It can read video codec's more efficiently than intel processors, but don't let that for one minute fool you into thinking it has more processing power than an i9.
 

Maxwells_Equations

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But it runs smoother than the top spec 16" MBP, it even complies code faster, despite lower raw performance.
And it's for less than half of the price of a top spec 16" MBP.
Apple simply groomed their software to get along "very well" with the silicon. In other words, optimized very well. While 3rd party software runs like guano.
 

johnkree

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No. I will have the new M1 for a very long time. I don't think that people tend to get every new iPhone or any new Macbook. I know lots of people who keep their Macs for a very long time. Because even 10 year old machines do their stuff. A big argument for buying apple is that their products have a good durability and you even get some money for it even as they are very old.
 

Maxwells_Equations

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No. I will have the new M1 for a very long time. I don't think that people tend to get every new iPhone or any new Macbook. I know lots of people who keep their Macs for a very long time. Because even 10 year old machines do their stuff. A big argument for buying apple is that their products have a good durability and you even get some money for it even as they are very old.
easy said until the forums start exploding in March about the 16" M MBP. Then lets see how easy it is to say "meh, im happy with my M1".
 

James_C

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There will be some people who bought a 13" Screen M1 who may upgrade to a 16" Screen when they upgrade the current Intel 16" MBP, but the step change in performance will be Intel to M1, If you already have an M1 then the change to another Apple Silicon computer will not be as bigger a jump, so I doubt there will be a lot of people upgrading. I plan to keep my Air for a number of years.
 

The Game 161

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Very happy with mine air fire my usage can’t justify what the 16 inch will cost but for me for my work the air fits a perfect need for that price point
 

JamieLannister

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LIFE IS WAY TOO SHORT to complain about material bs like apple devices. Look at that Mr. Hsieh, ex-ceo of Zappos - hundred $ millionaire and he can't take it to his grave. Just buy what you can and enjoy it. Something new comes out, get that too. Have you ever seen a hearst towing a uhaul? It's a wonderful life time we are living in when we have so many options in technology. Digressing here but I grew up playing video games where the box art never ever looks like video game. Now the graphics in games look better than the box art!
 

Hexley

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Ok so a little click bait...but hear me out and let me know your thoughts.

Apple releases the M1, a "taste" or "tease" for the M line. Come spring if they release other superior chips it can be argued the same people who just upgraded will upgrade again.

No fault of anyone, we all went crazy over the M1....and rightfully so....it is impressive, new, and efficient....a breath of fresh air.

I mean bravo apple...bravo.
That's the unfortunate side effect.

About ~20% of macrumorrs members probably bought a M1 Mac even if it did not fit all their concerns to a T.

M1 Macs represent ~80% of all Macs shipped globally. So from a revenue, margin and cost point of view this is the easiest and cheapest to upgrade en masse. This will provide the most impact for the whole line up in terns of units shipped.

~19% of al Macs shipped globally will get a refresh during an early 2021 Mac event. ~80% probability on March but 100% certainty on a Tuesday. These are probably ~80% of all Macs that macrumors members actually want.

~1% of all Macs shipped globally will get a refresh during WWDC 2021 in June.

In terms of marketing it sends to Intel/AMD that Apple tech is generations better than their tech. Apple's creating products they actually want rather than waiting for Intel or other 3rd parties to comply.
 

johnkree

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easy said until the forums start exploding in March about the 16" M MBP. Then lets see how easy it is to say "meh, im happy with my M1".
Yea, sure, there are tech enthusiats who would sell their grandmother to get the next gen something. But those aren't the masses. Look at how many people state that they are upgrading from their 2011-2015 Macs...
 

JamieLannister

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In terms of marketing it sends to Intel/AMD that Apple tech is generations better than their tech. Apple's creating products they actually want rather than waiting for Intel or other 3rd parties to comply.

this M1 is not generations better than anything AMD not especially Ryzen 5000 series, no way, no how. I have a new 5900x paired with an RTX2080 playing all the games and these M1 processors are good for iPad type productivities. Sure it can encode video well using their own hardware accelerators but there's nothing else so special to compare to desktop until they unveil their new desktop M variants and we shall see then. These new laptops are great for battery life, seriously little heat, and all efficiency. I salute apple for trailblazing and Intel deserves to lose they have been chronically run by MBA's who don't look ahead at all. 5 years tops considering their MBA positions only last that long.
 
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Hexley

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this M1 is not generations better than anything AMD not especially Ryzen 5000 series, no way, no how. I have a new 5900x paired with an RTX2080 playing all the games and these M1 processors are good for iPad type productivities. Sure it can encode video well using their own hardware accelerators but there's nothing else so special to compare to desktop until they unveil their new desktop M variants and we shall see then. These new laptops are great for battery life, seriously little heat, and all efficiency. I salute apple for trailblazing and Intel deserves to lose they have been chronically run by MBA's who don't look ahead at all. 5 years tops considering their MBA positions only last that long.
Is Ryzen 5000 a 10W TDP chip on a 5nm process?
 
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August West

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Hmmm, no.

I'm typing this on a mid 2012 mini which is quite honestly still more than adequate for my needs but am thinking of upgrading to an M1 mini simply because of the age of this machine and the fact it has reached the end of the road for OS updates.

Also looking at upgrading my 2017 MBA to a base model M1 MBA simply for the better display while my 2017 still has some trade-in value.

Both those should last me many years into the future.
 

digitalbreak

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Ok so a little click bait...but hear me out and let me know your thoughts.

Apple releases the M1, a "taste" or "tease" for the M line. Come spring if they release other superior chips it can be argued the same people who just upgraded will upgrade again.

No fault of anyone, we all went crazy over the M1....and rightfully so....it is impressive, new, and efficient....a breath of fresh air.

I mean bravo apple...bravo.
I mean, if they release updated MacBook Air design with M2 - I will sure upgrade.
 

Hexley

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let's not compare desktop here, just saying the M1 isn't "all that". Hyperbole at best. and let's wait and see their 5000 series apu first.
You compared that AMD chip to the M1. ???

And Apple doesn’t sell 5000 series apu.

m1 is a statement from Apple that if a 10w tdp chip can match a core i9 and geforce 1050 ti. What more a 205w tdp chip on a 5nm process?

id wager my whole stock portfolio that Apple can create a SoC with the performance of AMD’s top CPU and Nvidia‘s top GPU at less than 80% of their combined power consumption.
 
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Runs For Fun

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I disagree. I will not be upgrading again for a few years. I love the 13" size. 16" is way too big for me. I also don't need a Pro. The Air meets my needs just fine.
 

redcaptrickster

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I bought a MacBook Pro 16" about a year ago and have never regretted a purchase more than that thing. It's too big, it's too heavy. It's not a notebook. It's a desktop replacement. The 13 inch is perfect for my mobile lifestyle, and I can't see myself getting anything larger again.
 

Starfia

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Before the M1 was introduced, it was explicitly mentioned in the event that Apple would be rolling out a number of chips over the next two years. Spacing announcements like that out has been Apple's way for quite some time. So "bravo, Apple" over the years and decades, if you like.
 
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