Good point, I will at least wait till Leopard is out too.That they didnt add N wireless or the new Intel graphics, makes me think these could be it for the mini.
Maybe they have something better in the works, but it seems like the iMac will be the low end mac, sad.
I going to buy a stock mini with 10.5 and iLife, seems like it won't be a good deal till then.
You are way more brilliantThe key is timing it so that you get the general 10.5 install DVD, not the mini restore disk. Could be helpful with my old TiBook
We might have to share the 'brilliance'You are way more brilliant
How do you actually get the retail disk instead of the restore disk?
I would be happy with the restore disks, just put the "victim" Macintosh to target disk mode for the "steal" and install it using the correct Mac.
I like your method moreWe might have to share the 'brilliance'
If you buy stock the day of (or more likely the day or two after) 10.5 is announced, they will give you the retail 10.5 box with purchase. Key is you need to buy before the factory shipping 10.5 models arrive and you still qualify for the free upgrade.
As for your 'victim' method, may have to search the interwebs for more details
It's a great machine, but they did not revise the logic board, just upgraded the cpu. The mini and TV seems to be made for each other.It's a little hard to believe the mini didn't get 802.11n. Except for that it's what I was waiting for so I've placed my order. Beats the crap out of AppleTV, even at twice the price.
You sure about that? I thought you just get an up-to-date coupon good for an upgrade copy of OS X for the cost of shipping. Have you actually been handed a retail OS X box at the time of a Mac purchase?If you buy stock the day of (or more likely the day or two after) 10.5 is announced, they will give you the retail 10.5 box with purchase.
I know it's not much of an upgrade but at least it now has a 64 bit processor so it might hold it's value a little longer. The add'l RAM and HD space is a small bonus, and iPhoto '08 sounds interesting.It's a great machine, but they did not revise the logic board, just upgraded the cpu. The mini and TV seems to be made for each other.
What is the difference between upgrade and retail?You sure about that? I thought you just get an up-to-date coupon good for an upgrade copy of OS X for the cost of shipping. Have you actually been handed a retail OS X box at the time of a Mac purchase?
it wouldn't be so bad if the mini was $200 cheaper. but that would be apple tv territory there.I agree with you... I don't see why Apple can't give it a decent upgrade (or discontinue it). It gets no mention, and a lame speed bump to already outdated technology. I wish they would kill it already...
The upgrade disc, typically given away in the circumstances we are discussing, will only UPGRADE an installed version of OS X. It cannot be used to fully install the OS. (I know because I've gotten them before.) When it comes time to do a complete reinstall, you must first reinstall the previous version and then upgrade it. It sucks.What is the difference between upgrade and retail?
There is no such thing as a retail copy of OSX (retail by the definition set by Windows) because every Mac comes with OSX. All copies of OSX apart from the restore discs are by definition upgrade versions.
I agree. While we don't know how many they've sold it doesn't seem to be a big hit.I think the Mac Mini has been a disappointment to Apple.
Ouch, but then again it is not like OS X is something that needs to be reinstalled very often, so I guess it isn't too bad to just spend an additional 30 minutes installing the previous version first to appease the installer.The upgrade disc, typically given away in the circumstances we are discussing, will only UPGRADE an installed version of OS X. It cannot be used to fully install the OS. (I know because I've gotten them before.) When it comes time to do a complete reinstall, you must first reinstall the previous version and then upgrade it. It sucks.
There is indeed a retail version of OS X. It costs $129 and will fully install OS X on any Mac that is new enough to run it. It is not just an upgrade, although it can be used to upgrade your existing OS if you prefer that to a full install. Apple has already set the price for Leopard at the usual $129.
I just hope to see wireless-N and maybe the improved Intel graphics chipset in that thing.It's hard to predict right now. However... They DID actually bother upgrading the specs but no upgrade on the design... they could have EASILY slapped some black instead of white in there and made it match the new imacs, but the didn't. I am thinking they are just doing that to tide over the bunch who have been worried about the demise of the mini until they have a chance to devote a bit of time to it. The imac even didn't seem like a full fledged redesign.
Perhaps (and this is just hopeful speculation) a complete mini - redesign and integration of some apple tv things etc are in the works for January or spring 2008 and this current bump was just a hold over while they were too busy with the iphone and imac.
Even the imac (like someone mentioned in previous forums) looks like it's half way through a complete redesign. Like ... going towards the iphone look, but not quite there yet. Seems like they have to wait until they have the tech and freedom for what they WANT to do with it. Instead of making people wait they are releasing updates for the mini while they work on a new and awesome redesign that will attract people to it, and the imac until they can get what they want out of it ... perhaps another year from now we will see a much more major imac redesign....
hopefully sooner we will see a BIG mini redesign and update instead of a line kill. I'm thinking after leopard they will have a bit more time to optimize and redesign some lonely products.
MacPro and Mac Mini complete update JANUARY! ... just my guess (and hopefulness, cause the mini has a lot of potential )