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Use a different one then.
And when there isn’t one? Article says “subscription” apps represent 85% of the market and rising. I’m sure you wouldn’t be so blasé if phone manufacturers were to suddenly charge you a per-unlock fee when trying to turn on a phone you paid for.
 
And when there isn’t one? Article says “subscription” apps represent 85% of the market and rising. I’m sure you wouldn’t be so blasé if phone manufacturers were to suddenly charge you a per-unlock fee when trying to turn on a phone you paid for.
Go use a dumb phone.
 
As I said in my previous post, CC used to cost $2500. Now it's a little under $600/year to rent. In the 4+ years it takes to pay the same amount of money to Adobe under the new model versus the old, Adobe definitely released at least one paid upgrade. How much did that upgrade cost? I don't know, probably around $1000. Did you pay to upgrade? Or were you, like many customers, on an every other version cycle? If you upgraded every time a new version was released, the subscription model is actually a better deal. If you upgraded every other version, it's less in your favor.

Problem was nobody private hat the suite - I had just Photoshop - which was around 600$ and upgraded every third round. Now I would have to pay nearly tripple my payment to keep using PS. Not gonna happen.
 
Go use a dumb phone.

I understand your argument (difficult as you made it). You’re right, the buyer has ultimate power.

They seem to be talking about bait and switch though, which is something else entirely. I’m not sure what specific apps they’re talking about but if it’s true bait and switch, it is unethical and grounds for a lawsuit, and I would encourage them to pursue it.
 
Problem was nobody private hat the suite - I had just Photoshop - which was around 600$ and upgraded every third round. Now I would have to pay nearly tripple my payment to keep using PS. Not gonna happen.

Nobody? Are you kidding? Here's the reality: based on that ridiculous statement alone, you are not, and never were, Adobe's target customer. There are plenty of less expensive photo editing apps for hobbyists and serious amateurs. Adobe even makes one. And it's not subscription. CC and its various applications are designed for professionals and, when viewed in that context, priced quite reasonably in my opinion. And they are WIDELY used.

I do FileMaker development. FileMaker is how I make my living. I upgrade to every new version of FileMaker. If you make your living using a piece of software, you need to stay current.

People complaining about Photoshop being too expensive and only upgrading every third version or so...sorry, Photoshop was never for you in the first place.
 
That release is 187% pure, doctorate level, marketing BS.

Why am I still on MS Office 2007 (PC) and 2011 (Mac)?

Because I hate subscription models.

Now, let's hope Pages/Notes remains the way it is.
 
People complaining about Photoshop being too expensive and only upgrading every third version or so...sorry, Photoshop was never for you in the first place.

So Photoshop is not for Photographers but to impress with your "pro"ness? I see... Some people around here a oozing arrogance against semi-pros 8(
 
So Photoshop is not for Photographers but to impress with your "pro"ness? I see... Some people around here a oozing arrogance against semi-pros 8(

It has nothing to do with that. If you're a true professional who makes his or her living using Photoshop, you would most likely be upgrading more often than every three versions. You might be a great photographer who enjoys working with Photoshop, but that is not the same thing as being a professional who earns his or her living using the software. I know. I have many professional photographer friends and they ALL keep Photoshop up to date.

Do you make your living using Photoshop? If you are a true pro who never upgrades, you're in a tiny minority of Adobe customers and, frankly, I don't think they care about your use case, nor should they. You're the exception, not the rule, in that case.
 
I predict Apple will create a general app subscription service, like a Netflix for apps. Pay $10/mo and have access to any app that Apple accepts into the service. Bigger apps that have their own subscription won’t be part of it, but smaller apps that can’t justify their own subscription will be able to herd together to form aggregate value (kind of like boy bands). More frequently downloaded apps will get more of the share of course, but this way even smaller apps can get some of that subscription action. Maybe it’ll just be for games, I don’t know. Not something I want as a customer, but it looks like that’s where we’re heading.
 
Do you make your living using Photoshop? If you are a true pro who never upgrades, you're in a tiny minority of Adobe customers and, frankly, I don't think they care about your use case, nor should they. You're the exception, not the rule, in that case.

What is it with most Americans and always making money from everything? Don't you know hobbies, aka doing stuff because you like doing them, not because you could make money with it?

Even sane professional use doesn't upgrade each time because not all upgrades are worth the price. Being at the newest version has no inherent advantage. Having the version that fulfils your requirements is the right choice. An example from my field of work: Even with Dassault Catia V6 available for 10 years - *NO* car maker on the planet has jumped to it. All keep using Catia V5 and forced Dassault to continue to further develop V5, too.
 
The big problem is the companies switching to subscriptions are ultra-greedy: 80-100$ yearly is insane for most apps, it would have been insane as a one time price for many apps.

If companies would take sane amount like 5-20$ yearly more people would be ok with it...
Adobe used to charge over $1000 once off for a bundle of 3-5 of their apps depending on which professional field you’re focused in.

Now they charge something like $40 per month for their entire suite.

Microsoft is something similar.

Everyone here crying about Apple being greedy? All their OS software on every device (macOS, iOS, tvOS, etc) has been free for years.

How would you have it some other way?
 
What is it with most Americans and always making money from everything? Don't you know hobbies, aka doing stuff because you like doing them, not because you could make money with it?

Even sane professional use doesn't upgrade each time because not all upgrades are worth the price. Being at the newest version has no inherent advantage. Having the version that fulfils your requirements is the right choice. An example from my field of work: Even with Dassault Catia V6 available for 10 years - *NO* car maker on the planet has jumped to it. All keep using Catia V5 and forced Dassault to continue to further develop V5, too.

Why are you arguing with me? I've made my point very clear. Software like Photoshop is for professional users first and foremost, not hobbyists. You might not agree with that and, as a hobbyist, you have every right to still buy and use Photoshop, but get real.

People like you who upgraded every three or four releases would NEVER keep Adobe in business. If every Adobe customer was like you, they'd have been out of business decades ago. Stop being cheap and recognize that software as sophisticated as Photoshop costs money to develop and support.

I know plenty of sane professionals and they ALL upgrade, whatever their tool may be. I've never met a professional user who was more than one version behind on mission critical applications. Adobe's tools are mission critical tools.
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The big problem is the companies switching to subscriptions are ultra-greedy: 80-100$ yearly is insane for most apps, it would have been insane as a one time price for many apps.

If companies would take sane amount like 5-20$ yearly more people would be ok with it...

I completely agree with that. Price is the issue. You and I disagree on Adobe. I think they are priced fairly. You don't. I don't think apps and services like 1Password or Evernote are priced fairly at all. Most Adobe customers make their living using Adobe products. No one makes a living using 1Password or Evernote. It's all about perceived value. I make my living using FileMaker. I have no problem paying FileMaker every year. But I'd never pay $100/year for a note taking app. $10/year? Sure.
 
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