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When you have an education and you’re qualified in something medical please come back to me then, too. But, for the third time, i’m speaking of general women’s health in comparison to men’s health rather than comparing specific types of cancers. Sure, prostate cancer is a lot more tricker than breast cancer for a variety of reasons, but that’s not what I’m referring to.

"When you have an education". What do you know about my education and qualifications ?

That's right. Nothing. So no need to be insulting.
 
How can you be so naïve ?

For example, there is currently no good test (or screening programme in the UK and probably elsewhere) for prostate cancer. It is now taking more men in the UK than breast cancer is taking women. When they do save the man, he can be left with serious side effects. How about starting there ?
Tracking the progression of a pregnancy, or monthly cycles and fertility, seems doable with an app.

But I don’t think the iPhone or Apple Watch will be able to test for or somehow detect cancer, in women or men. I think you might be expecting a little too much from Apple in this regard.
 
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Tracking monthly periods and fertility is doable with an app.

But I don’t think the iPhone or Apple Watch will be able to test or detect cancer, in women or men. I think you might be expecting a little too much from Apple in this regard.

Yes, direct analysis seems unlikely. However, there could be helpful options to track, say, urination habits in men, which can be related to poor prostate health.

I was pushing back at the over generalisation.
 
"When you have an education". What do you know about my education and qualifications ?

That's right. Nothing. So no need to be insulting.

I referred to something medical. Do you, though? My guess is not because you’d clearly understand what I mean by women’s health. It’s not being insulting, but rather factual and realistic about what you understand medically. If you want to talk women's health, I’m sure we could talk about how women have to deal with such a things like frequent urinary infections, yeast infections, endometriosis, heavy uterine shedding or even poly cystic ovary syndrome. Those are the kind of general things when referrencing women’s health, things which are specific to a woman that a man does not have to deal with or have anything similar in severity or commonality to women.
 
Of course you can't compare them. Prostate cancers are killing many men every day. You had better pray that it doesn't get you or your mail relatives before there is proper monitoring and a non-disastrous cure.

When you've lived with the same female partner for thirty plus years, you can come back and lecture me about women's health issues.

Haha when you are a woman then you can lecture other men. Age has nothing to do with knowledge.

He is right there is a reason women have gynaecology, urogynecology, and obstetricians.
 
How come people automatically put this in a simplistic women versus men narrative? Everyone's health benefits everyone!

It is good that they are investing in this area. I, for one, have not said otherwise. However, it would be good to see more investment in men's health issues too.
 
Who knows. Apple may develop a revolutionary prostate exam method using ultrasound and other clever tech.

Apple is going to improve on the dedicated clinical researchers and clinicians, i.e., digital exam, ultrasound, MRI, CT scans or PET scans with a magical detector in an iPhone? If they can do this, I will join the millions recommending them for Nobel Prize.

PSA is not even prostate specific, the false negatives/positives are fighting and to date, there is no magical chemical that can be detected in the blood to screen for this cancer. Yet.

That would be nice. One less finger up the butt. :)

Zenithal said: I'm sure it can be done. I wasn't kidding with my post. You'd think with the advances we have in tech someone could come up with a simpler and less expensive and intrusive solution.

A gloved finger in the annual or bi-annual checkup is the cheapest method - and still not accurate until the tumor is a considerable size.

They still have to get in there - with ultrasound or anything else new. The alternate access point is more painful even to think about.:eek:o_O:) If the choice is given, the finger is the "more" welcome method.
 
Haha when you are a woman then you can lecture other men. Age has nothing to do with knowledge.

He is right there is a reason women have gynaecology, urogynecology, and obstetricians.
plus in the us women are often under treated or not even believed often. just look at heart attacks and how man and women are not treated equally.
 
How can you be so naïve ?

For example, there is currently no good test (or screening programme in the UK and probably elsewhere) for prostate cancer. It is now taking more men in the UK than breast cancer is taking women. When they do save the man, he can be left with serious side effects. How about starting there ?
Yeah, all those majority female cancer researchers simply don't care enough about men.
 
For example, there is currently no good test (or screening programme in the UK and probably elsewhere) for prostate cancer. It is now taking more men in the UK than breast cancer is taking women. When they do save the man, he can be left with serious side effects. How about starting there ?

There is no clinical prognostic or diagnostic blood or urine test that can be done to screen for prostate cancer - full stop. All over the world. They are researching - so far futile.

It is a cancer in an apparently easy access, but in reality a poor access area for diagnosing - which accounts for its late diagnosis most of the time. Treatment protocols have improved - not enough to save function most of the time. Unlike breast/ovarian cancer, there is no easy preventive surgery (Angelina Jolie) without the depressing complications.

Men’s health in general doesn’t require a lot of specialism though. Woman’s health is a lot more in depth due to a lot more going on, especially on a monthly basis, than men.

Actually, prostate (urology) specialists are the one field that do require specializing to a high degree.
 
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That would be nice. One less finger up the butt. :)

I take it as you do not enjoy the prostate checks then :)
Even worst, my doctor has a really large hands. I feel very violated, like somebody is sticking a periscope up my ar*e :)

I wish Apple would take professionals from places which are not famous for denying patience care for their own profit.
It doesn’t really give Apple that great of an image.

Of course I do not know that doctor but I hope she really cares for the well being of patients.
 
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I wish Apple would take professionals from places which are not famous for denying patience care for their own profit.
It doesn’t really give Apple that great of an image.

Not a trustworthy group.

Does not matter how noble the physician is - the rules bind them from ethical practice.
 
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