Apple Hires Obstetrician for Health Team to Bolster Women's Health Efforts

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  1. netdudeuk macrumors 6502

    Nov 27, 2012
    "When you have an education". What do you know about my education and qualifications ?

    That's right. Nothing. So no need to be insulting.
  2. PickUrPoison macrumors 68030

    Sep 12, 2017
    Sunnyvale, CA
    Tracking the progression of a pregnancy, or monthly cycles and fertility, seems doable with an app.

    But I don’t think the iPhone or Apple Watch will be able to test for or somehow detect cancer, in women or men. I think you might be expecting a little too much from Apple in this regard.
  3. netdudeuk macrumors 6502

    Nov 27, 2012
    Yes, direct analysis seems unlikely. However, there could be helpful options to track, say, urination habits in men, which can be related to poor prostate health.

    I was pushing back at the over generalisation.
  4. owen.meredith macrumors newbie


    Sep 9, 2015
    I referred to something medical. Do you, though? My guess is not because you’d clearly understand what I mean by women’s health. It’s not being insulting, but rather factual and realistic about what you understand medically. If you want to talk women's health, I’m sure we could talk about how women have to deal with such a things like frequent urinary infections, yeast infections, endometriosis, heavy uterine shedding or even poly cystic ovary syndrome. Those are the kind of general things when referrencing women’s health, things which are specific to a woman that a man does not have to deal with or have anything similar in severity or commonality to women.
  5. willmtaylor macrumors G3


    Oct 31, 2009
    A Natural State
    Careful, using the term “manly” may trigger a PRSI discussion. (Just ask Gillette). :confused:
  6. syphern macrumors 6502

    Jan 15, 2008
    Haha when you are a woman then you can lecture other men. Age has nothing to do with knowledge.

    He is right there is a reason women have gynaecology, urogynecology, and obstetricians.
  7. Kettil macrumors member

    May 31, 2011
    How come people automatically put this in a simplistic women versus men narrative? Everyone's health benefits everyone!
  8. lunarworks macrumors 65816

    Jun 17, 2003
    Toronto, Canada
    Because some people have a zero-sum mindset. To them if women gain from something, that must mean that men lose from it.
  9. netdudeuk macrumors 6502

    Nov 27, 2012
    It is good that they are investing in this area. I, for one, have not said otherwise. However, it would be good to see more investment in men's health issues too.
  10. KPandian1 macrumors 65816

    Oct 22, 2013
    Apple is going to improve on the dedicated clinical researchers and clinicians, i.e., digital exam, ultrasound, MRI, CT scans or PET scans with a magical detector in an iPhone? If they can do this, I will join the millions recommending them for Nobel Prize.

    PSA is not even prostate specific, the false negatives/positives are fighting and to date, there is no magical chemical that can be detected in the blood to screen for this cancer. Yet.

    A gloved finger in the annual or bi-annual checkup is the cheapest method - and still not accurate until the tumor is a considerable size.

    They still have to get in there - with ultrasound or anything else new. The alternate access point is more painful even to think about.:eek:o_O:) If the choice is given, the finger is the "more" welcome method.
  11. steve knight macrumors 68020

    steve knight

    Jan 28, 2009
    plus in the us women are often under treated or not even believed often. just look at heart attacks and how man and women are not treated equally.
  12. manu chao macrumors 603

    Jul 30, 2003
    Yeah, all those majority female cancer researchers simply don't care enough about men.
  13. mudflap macrumors 6502


    Aug 24, 2007
    That is precisely how the American conservative mind works these days, unfortunately.
  14. KPandian1, Feb 9, 2019
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2019

    KPandian1 macrumors 65816

    Oct 22, 2013
    There is no clinical prognostic or diagnostic blood or urine test that can be done to screen for prostate cancer - full stop. All over the world. They are researching - so far futile.

    It is a cancer in an apparently easy access, but in reality a poor access area for diagnosing - which accounts for its late diagnosis most of the time. Treatment protocols have improved - not enough to save function most of the time. Unlike breast/ovarian cancer, there is no easy preventive surgery (Angelina Jolie) without the depressing complications.

    Actually, prostate (urology) specialists are the one field that do require specializing to a high degree.
  15. UKinEK macrumors 6502


    Aug 29, 2015
    Brooks, AB
    I take it as you do not enjoy the prostate checks then :)
    Even worst, my doctor has a really large hands. I feel very violated, like somebody is sticking a periscope up my ar*e :)

    I wish Apple would take professionals from places which are not famous for denying patience care for their own profit.
    It doesn’t really give Apple that great of an image.

    Of course I do not know that doctor but I hope she really cares for the well being of patients.
  16. KPandian1 macrumors 65816

    Oct 22, 2013
    Not a trustworthy group.

    Does not matter how noble the physician is - the rules bind them from ethical practice.

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