Apple Hiring Oracle Sales People?

[sethypoo]

Originally posted by macMaestro
Apple already has a large share of small buisnesses and small non-profits. With the enterprise sales division, apple's trying to target large corporations, i.e. fortune 500 companies.

(edit: I didn't mean LARGE large, but a higher presence than say it's total market share.)

I kinda meant like moving further into that market.

 

[legion]

Originally posted by rdowns
You buy other companies reps for their Rolodexes and contacts and less for their sales skills.

However, you can't take it with you... Oracle knows how to write their hiring contracts; they're not newbies to the business world. You don't give your sales force keys to the kingdom without protecting yourself.

 

[AidenShaw]

Originally posted by legion
Oracle knows how to write their hiring contracts...

Do you work in Kahlifoania?

The "right to work" laws here make many of the common contractual issues about competing with your previous employer null and void...

 

[rainman::|:|]

hmm... i work in corporate communications and marketing... maybe i should send off a resume

ah if only. this is a great thing tho, something apple has really been lacking for a long time-- if they can get some big name accounts, it'll grab some headlines, and introducing Macs into more mainstream workplaces will definitely add credibility to the abilities of the mac platform. good move, apple.

paul

 

[legion]

Originally posted by AidenShaw
Do you work in Kahlifoania?

The "right to work" laws here make many of the common contractual issues about competing with your previous employer null and void...

Yes, I do.

The "right to work" laws didn't nullify all of a company's rights. There are protections for the original company's client lists from being stolen by leaving employees. The "right to work" laws just narrowed the focus of what a "competing company" can be defined as and the duration of the clause. It recognized that employees in one tech firm would be screwed if they couldn't work at another tech firm because of a non-compete clause, since that's where their skills are.

 

[jade]

Oracle and Apple do not sell the same type of products. These Oracle sales reps know people who can get meetings...there wouldn't be competion in the client lists. And sales isn't like advertising and PR whre it is a lot clearer about which client belongs to who.

More Apples in business will mean more apple's at home. Many people buy PCs because they use PCs at work...even if a competing apple solutuon would be better suited to their needs.

Hopefully we see some big customer wins by the end of the year.

 

[winmacguy]

Originally posted by jade
Oracle and Apple do not sell the same type of products. These Oracle sales reps know people who can get meetings...there wouldn't be competion in the client lists. And sales isn't like advertising and PR whre it is a lot clearer about which client belongs to who.

More Apples in business will mean more apple's at home. Many people buy PCs because they use PCs at work...even if a competing apple solutuon would be better suited to their needs.

Hopefully we see some big customer wins by the end of the year.

This can only mean progress for Apple

 

[JLL]

Originally posted by jade
Oracle and Apple do not sell the same type of products.

Hmm... Oracle sell databases - Apple sell servers - 10g will be released for Mac OS X.

Seems very related to mee, and if Apple is about to sell G5 Xserves with Oracle 10g pre installed (which is very likely), Oracle sales people probably aren't the worst kind of people to sell that product

 

[rdowns]

Originally posted by legion
However, you can't take it with you... Oracle knows how to write their hiring contracts; they're not newbies to the business world. You don't give your sales force keys to the kingdom without protecting yourself.

Apple and Oracle don't compete, Oracle sells software and services, Apple sells hardware. Hiring rep who can get you in the door of large companies is smart. It's not like Apple will have them trying to replace Oracle with, what, Appleworks?

 

[scat999999]

They don't need to blaze new paths...>

They bring existing relationships to the table. Getting in to see the decision makers is 90% of sales.

Originally posted by legion
but anyone who's ever dealt with an Oracle rep would know that their "skills" are based on their company's pre-exisiting brand name in the industry; they are not blazing any new paths in the business sector (which is the kind of sales force Apple will need to crack into the Fortune 500.)

 

[k2k koos]

I too agree, getting mac's into business places means more macs at home, as is now the case with PeeCee's .... At work PC, so i 'll take one at home too, good point there!