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Apple Hit With $530,000 Chinese Lawsuit Over Unauthorized Sales of Animated Films
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I am saddened my how misinformed people are these days. Even more than that, they pretend to know something when they really don't. Somebody who lacks basic business sense and does not know how to spell "iPhone" correctly should not try and be the CEO of Apple.
Apple sells pirated movies, and your attitude is "It's not their fault"?
IMO, a vendor is responsible if it sells pirated movies. And I'm confident that in most universes, that is true.
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I bet that apple will stop making pirated videos available for download on the App Store.
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It Target or WalMart or Amazon were to sell pirated movies, the copyright holder would likely go after both the pirate and the retailer. Same here, with Apple being the retailer.
The oil companies make profit from every crime involving a car, be that a bank heist, car jacking, murder or what ever. Should wee seek compensation from the oil companies because they have deep pockets too ?
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Perhaps this is the real issue, Apple is raising expectations for tens of millions of other Chinese workers about pay rates, work hours, worker safety , and so on. And because Apple does it publicly it is raising awareness that other companies are NOT doing it which is also applying pressure for these companies to do something. It sort of a revolution without guns and one the Chinese state does not like.
So piracy-land is complaining about unauthorized sales?
Same thing I was thinking.
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You mean apps that have access to pirated videos? Sorry, I do NOT want YouTube removed!
Well, they do take 30% of the money that is charged for the apps and the in-app content, surely that means they have some responsibility.
The creators of The Pirate Bay were successfully sued for copyright infringement even though they only provided the torrent tracker and never provided any copyrighted material themselves. We may not agree with it, but that's how it played out, why shouldn't Apple be subject to the same scrutiny?
Eh, no, the US is hitting the wall right now, China and other developing countries are reaping the benefits and will for a long time.
So piracy-land is complaining about unauthorized sales?
So the fact that many companies in a particular territory are pirates means that no business in that territory, even legit ones, are entitled to any legal rights? (I know nothing about this particular company btw)
Well, Apple''s hoarding $150 billion, and the shake-down artists and leachers are doing what they do best: going for low-hanging fruit.
But you're right. And the surge in lawsuits in China are troublesome, because Apple is so dependent on China for manufacture of its products, and much of its future growth. I have wondered if people are being manipulated or otherwise encouraged to do Samsung's bidding in their war with Apple. Death by a million papercuts...
Indeed. I believe it was here on MacRumors where it was reported that the so-called "investigative journalism" hit piece run by The Chinese government news agency had tried to stir up resentment of Apple, but had barely registered with the public.
There is something behind this, but I don't understand what. Does Korean Samsung have better political connections in China, and are they utilizing those to orchestrate this campaign? If so, Apple had better get in the game, and develop the wherewithal to push back. China is secondary to India in Apple's growth plans, but China is still huge - and obviously critical in the supply chain side.
If Apple is going to be sabotaged politically in China, and they can't do anything about it, then perhaps they should start looking to diversify their manufacturing base as a hedge. I'm sure Vietnam would be very happy to have some Apple plants in their country, and they have no love for the Chinese, but I'm not sure they have the necessary skill sets. India probably does though, but I don't really know anything about India's relationship with China.
Slowly moving out of China
I wonder if all this negative campaign against Apple by the Chinese government is due to Apple slowly getting more of it's products made in countries outside of China. Foe example Brazil and the US.
I wonder if all this negative campaign against Apple by the Chinese government is due to Apple slowly getting more of it's products made in countries outside of China. Foe example Brazil and the US.
I'm not sure why Apple is being targeted but it's not the only company being targeted.
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Apple has had a coordinated campaign against the Chinese leadership ???
Are you joking? If you do the math the number 1 telecom market in the world is china.
Tim cook has been trying for years to gain access to that market (cheaper iphone, different band iphone) to no avail.
$530000 is chump change to pay for a slice of this market
Blood on the water! Apple has been bitten is China, and Sharks are circling all over!
China will defend China. APPLE gonna bleed all over the place!
Time to move the factory! APPLE got the money!
APPLE it's time to copy Google and go to Hongkong,
Open factories in Philippines, Myanmar, Indonesia, anywhere!
YOU GOT THE MONEY! YOU CAN DO IT!
Hong Kong is China
So, Apple has to dig deep and makes 100% sure there is no illegal content anywhere on 100'000s of Apps, can't be done, the developers are the ones monetary responsible, Apple might have some responsibilities but they shouldn't get sued over what a developer includes in their Apps.
See comment above.
Most illegals don´t have a clue on how to get "free help with medical and child education" if there is any, I know a lot them, and none have this "free help" you are talking about neither they have heard about it, this a myth that people still try others to believe is true.
They pardon everyone?? Every day hundreds are arrested and sent back Immediately or put in jail, they don´t "pardon" nobody... last time someone was "pardon" was like in 1985 with last amnesty, which was not for "everybody" but for some people under certain conditions like for those with no previous police record
I would say it is the opposite, ask someone who has been through immigration process to become a resident alien, probably took him years, or even someone just to get a Visa to come as a tourist to the US, it is the harshest embassy asking for all kind of documents and interviews.
again, no pardon, where did you get this from anyways? I don´t want to get into, but as much they "disrupt" aspects of the economy, they may also fulfill another parts for which us-citizens don´t want to work for, example: construction, agriculture, maids, fast food employees, janitors, and so on
Those "Mexican-born american citizen" at some point were illegals aliens also, they just got residency because either they got married to US citizen or their US-born children being 18+ asked for their parents or were sponsored by Corporations for executives jobs, there is no other way around.... ok, there another way, if you invest 1 million dollar in the US and create at least 3 jobs you get citizenship, but that´s like .05% of the people, no pardon, no nothing !
I agree, the US is not and should not be obligated to help them, but while they are here, believe me, you are not paying for their expenses, in fact they are helping legal residents in many ways, for example, taxes are taken from their paychecks (example: Social Security, state and federal taxes), for which they don´t receive anything (for being illegals) and Social Security keeps that extra money, turns out it´s a lot of money which might be keeping the SS from going bankrupt
Yes, it is a lot of money being sent to Mexico, but petroleum, tourism, manufacture and services in fact produces more than that.
ok, agree on this one
have you ever met any?
Sometimes someone APPEARED caring about copyright, 'cause they want the money.
That's it, money first, money is god, money is the religen. In this fancy land, things can turn 180 degree suddenly and unusually, 'cause money is the RULER. Almost everything can appearing changed, but nothing really changed.
BTW, there is a pirate land indead. Shoes can have original Angry Birds image on it, along with the word "Happy Birds". TV show can use image from Plants Vs. Zombiea anytime. Older days here have Good Boy with same design to Game Boy. And now, I'm not really remembered, oPhone, hiPhone?
That's it, money first, money is god, money is the religen. In this fancy land, things can turn 180 degree suddenly and unusually, 'cause money is the RULER. Almost everything can appearing changed, but nothing really changed.
BTW, there is a pirate land indead. Shoes can have original Angry Birds image on it, along with the word "Happy Birds". TV show can use image from Plants Vs. Zombiea anytime. Older days here have Good Boy with same design to Game Boy. And now, I'm not really remembered, oPhone, hiPhone?
It comes down to proper procedure. If apple had been informed of the copyright infringement then you can be guaranteed the app would not be in the store.
Apple should not pay them a penny if they didn't inform them. Apple cannot check changing content in apps and be responsible for any other than pornograpic or illegal content. Copyrighted content can only be reported by the holder as apple does not know the copyright situations of every company in the world and every piece of intellectual property.
I guarantee you that this material isn't even available to buy from the copyright holder knowing the kind of content mentioned here. How can you loose money on content you aren't even selling.
Copyright is not designed to provide damages like they are claiming either, it's there to stop reselling that would affect your business and reclaim profits lost. 530000 seems high considering.
Apple should not pay them a penny if they didn't inform them. Apple cannot check changing content in apps and be responsible for any other than pornograpic or illegal content. Copyrighted content can only be reported by the holder as apple does not know the copyright situations of every company in the world and every piece of intellectual property.
I guarantee you that this material isn't even available to buy from the copyright holder knowing the kind of content mentioned here. How can you loose money on content you aren't even selling.
Copyright is not designed to provide damages like they are claiming either, it's there to stop reselling that would affect your business and reclaim profits lost. 530000 seems high considering.
BullSh**
If Apple is to be undone, it will be from The Peoples Republic of China.
Not Samsung. F the Chinese.
If Apple is to be undone, it will be from The Peoples Republic of China.
Not Samsung. F the Chinese.
Simple, they review every App put on the App Store, this review process actually makes them responsible in may parts of the world, this could very well be the case in China.
its about China's 4G and China Mobile
this is not about iTunes store, or about apple's practices in China.
its about China's 4G and China Mobile.
about 6 or 7 years ago China restructured its mobile carriers and their allowed frequencies.
China Mobile's infrastructure was given to China Unicom (GMS/3G world standard compatibility)
China Mobile itself was told by the central Beijing government to build its 4G platform on a China standard. It has been doing this, but it has never taken off (for 3G) and its 4G marketing will probably yield similar poor results.
China Mobile simply needs apple. But apple prefers to work with China Unicom due to world wide compatibility.
So iPhone 6 is rumoured to be compatible with the new China 4 standard. But it is up to apple if they actually sell a compatible model or not in China.
An additional side point is that China Mobile wants to have its own iOS compatible app store. Not through iTunes.
China is playing tough and trying to break apple. But the mainstream computer friendly people in China arent believing what the Chinese government is trying to by starting an anti-apple campaign.
this is not about iTunes store, or about apple's practices in China.
its about China's 4G and China Mobile.
about 6 or 7 years ago China restructured its mobile carriers and their allowed frequencies.
China Mobile's infrastructure was given to China Unicom (GMS/3G world standard compatibility)
China Mobile itself was told by the central Beijing government to build its 4G platform on a China standard. It has been doing this, but it has never taken off (for 3G) and its 4G marketing will probably yield similar poor results.
China Mobile simply needs apple. But apple prefers to work with China Unicom due to world wide compatibility.
So iPhone 6 is rumoured to be compatible with the new China 4 standard. But it is up to apple if they actually sell a compatible model or not in China.
An additional side point is that China Mobile wants to have its own iOS compatible app store. Not through iTunes.
China is playing tough and trying to break apple. But the mainstream computer friendly people in China arent believing what the Chinese government is trying to by starting an anti-apple campaign.
The criticism began when Apple added HTTPS support to the App Store, in a move that was widely seen as a way to circumvent the per-app blocking that had been introduced by Chinese censors.