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So if you buy a machine with Lion installed...does it register as purchasing Lion on your iTunes account?

Cause if not this is a little lame as with the up-to-date program you would get the upgrade for free which I assume would work on all your machines as it would be like buying it from the Mac App Store.

What happens on Snow Leopard Macs today with the iLife programs? To they show up as purchased in the Mac App Store?
 
Well this kinda sucks. I really wanted a new MBA before I left the country. I don't want to pay Euro prices just because I'm there for 2 months. :(
 
No. Please don't lie.

Apple is a big conspirator and would even go to the extent of integrating bombs into motherboards just for the sake of killing innocent people. Apple is evil.

That's about 90% of forum participants' belief. Also I laughed and snot came out of my nose when I read this.
 
No-brainer

Of course they are waiting. I knew immediately the rumors of an MBA launch last week were false. Why wouldn't they wait just a few weeks to ship with Lion?
 
No. Please don't lie.

Apple is a big conspirator and would even go to the extent of integrating bombs into motherboards just for the sake of killing innocent people. Apple is evil.

if you can't stand Apple so much, why are you even here?

(that is, if you're not being sarcastic, I can't tell ;) )
 
This is a bit annoying. I would prefer to have the MBA now and just upgrade it myself once Lion is ready. If I wanted to have it installed out of the box I would just wait to buy until after Lion is out. Why do we all have to wait? I wonder what kind of a delay we're looking at here while they load the MBAs with Lion.
 
The question now is when (exact date) is Lion coming out?

I say early July but who knows.
 
Good to know that all the new hardware is sitting in some Chinese warehouse.
 
Get real. Seriously. Not everything in this world is a big conspiracy. Everything you wrote has absolutely no truth or merit.

Apple is all about the user experience and I think many people would be mad if they bought a new machine and then had to upgrade a few weeks later to a new OS.

Historically speaking, what Apple has done is to release new hardware just before the OS. For instance the mid-2009 update for MBPs was done only ~2 months before the release of Snow Leopard. Doesn't mean that it is relevant to today's situation but it wouldn't be a new thing.
 
I wonder if other machines besides the Air will transition to the USB stick for recovery. Alternatively, they could move toward relying on the recovery partition.

I think it'll be the latter, unfortunately.

Why release MBAs now when Apple can wait a month and avoid making media for it entirely?
 
Apple is all about the user experience and I think many people would be mad if they bought a new machine and then had to upgrade a few weeks later to a new OS.

I'd rather be able to get the new Air quicker. Upgrading an OS isn't that big of a deal. The anticipation of the new Air is killing me as is. I don't want to wait even longer!
 
This makes me mad. I have already been waiting 3 weeks for the new MBA and really need a laptop again. Now I have to wait till next month?! I hopefully can wait that long but I might have to break down and get the current MBA sadly.
 
I think it'll be the latter, unfortunately.

Why release MBAs now when Apple can wait a month and avoid making media for it entirely?

So if you upgrade your HD how exactly do you install lion?

Edit: I guess they could have a built in recovery drive that connects to the internet and DLs it (think PXE) or a recovery drive that contains an OS image (though that solution would require a lot more hardware investment)
 
It's a fact that any .0 software release, especially Apple's, is going to be full of bugs, so this doesn't sound like a very good idea.

It's a fact that ANY software release regardless of build, version number, or company, is going to be full of bugs.
 
"offering customers the latest and greatest software experience"

Really?

Why they do not fix then the bugs that plague Mac OS X? And why do they keep on charging for new versions of something that is basically new beta versions of Mac OS X 10.0? It seems that Apple is too busy with iOS instead.
 
Too bad they are not going to save me the inconvenience of purchasing two OSs so I can use Lion.
 
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I don't think Apple has ever done that before. It's a good thing for 'simple' users, it's not a good thing for high-end users. I'd love to be able to run Snow Leopard on a new Macbook Air, just in case I would have to run a PowerPC app. And I don't like Apple forcing us to wait.
 
Yeah, I really don't think that makes sense, especially given that there will be bugs. I'm definitely not upgrading at the first release, if I even upgrade at all.
 
Seriously?

So if you buy a machine with Lion installed...does it register as purchasing Lion on your iTunes account?

Cause if not this is a little lame as with the up-to-date program you would get the upgrade for free which I assume would work on all your machines as it would be like buying it from the Mac App Store.
 
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