Imagine owning a HP machine.. ugh
I do own one. Mine is TERRIBLE. Never, ever buy an HP Pavilion Slimline.
Imagine owning a HP machine.. ugh
how did apple grow lower than hp?
I`m guessing the year over year % is negative for Apple and HP. Probably a typo.
Edit: I take it back. I`m confused.![]()
I used a Mac as a child (We are talking rainbow colored Apple logo) then I switched to a windows platform for compatibility reasons, then about 4-5 years ago I switched back to a Macbook. Interface is intuitive, straightforward, and very easy to learn. I will never go back to Windows, especially since Mac is making such a huge push to universal compatibility. I have no doubt Microsoft will make a comeback, or at least try, but it is definitely, slowly becoming a Mac world.
True. And Apple makes Macs and HP makes HPs - let the judging begin![]()
Macs are dead!
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There are too many PC companies, I think. Just like they're are too many tablet makers.
One company might release a laptop. Companies release laptops that are the same with different logos and varying prices but essentially all just ways to run Windows. Unless you're going to release something new to the market why release anything?
That's why Apple is awesome. Their computers actually make a difference. They're saying this is what we've got, take it or leave it. They haven't gone for bloatware or trial software just to try and keep their computers cheap. They put user-experience at the core of their business.
I wonder if they'll be number one one day.
There is a good reason that HP and Dell are at the top two spots, and it is not just that Windows is the most widely used OS. HP and Dell constitute the overwhelming majority of computers used for corporate and government IT (and general computer hardware) contracts. I know a little bit about this - I am a systems admin for the US Marine Corps (defense contractor) and all I ever see used is HP and Dell. Companies like General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, etc...all use these brands as their dominant vehicle for delivery of various networking and software contracts.
I have yet to find a Windows PC with anything close to the trackpad the MacBooks offer. I keep switching between MacBooks and Windows laptops, but prefer Windows 7 for ease of home networking ( I have 5 PCs and several wifi printers and a NAS ) and gaming. I couldn't beat the price on an HP laptop with 1080p, bluray, AMD 7690 graphics and quad core for $920 a month ago an really like it. However, I find myself using my new iPad 90% of the time unless I'm gaming or playing blurays.
I have HP, ASUS, and an old Compaq laptop at home, but nothing beats the quality of a MacBook.
Imagine owning a HP machine.. ugh
I like both my Mac and my PC. I often cite the hatred of mac/pc fanboys over the other platform though as a reason why there can never be world peace. Why do people get so up in arms because someone else uses a different kind of computer?
Why does it matter if someone uses a PC? Why does it matter if someone uses a Mac? Why does a person's choice in a computer make them any less of a person?
And why, because someone uses a PC, does that make them the person buying the economy car instead of the luxury sedan?
There is such a thing as a quality PC, not all of them are made of Dell and HP's budget line of computers after all.
Probably because the average age of people posting to MacRumours seems to be in junior high school. More mature people don't react the same when they see "Samsung" or "Google" or "Android" in a story.
You should post more - you'll lose the "newbie" label and raise the level of discourse.
Very true. Most here, however, only see the Windows laptops on the bargain bin at Best Buy. My Dell Latitudes and IBM/Lenovo ThinkPads have been great (and I've bought about a hundred of them). The only black mark has been a few years ago when some of them had the Nvidia mobile GPU with the solder problem - but Apples failed due to the same supplier problem.
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Apple doesn't understand the corporate world, according to Apple, businesses love secrecy ( especially when it comes to software )
i've got the HP Envy 14.. i'm really considering getting a 15 inch macbook pro? or should i wait for the 15 inch macbook air?
Which mac should i buy?, i wouldn't buy one until like this fall or something, though.
Btw... a question to the mac users.. i've never used a Mac OS before and it looks hard to learn just by looking at it. Do you guys think it's easy to learn? i know iOS is.
I wonder what they do for their own data centers and networks.
Based on these number and soon 2nd quarter financials I can bet my house the stock will tumble for a while. May be temporary but Stock will drop. Prepare or take profits now unless your in for the long haul. Will take a few months to recover.
Imagine owning a HP machine.. ugh
Apple doesn't fill them with Apple kit, that's been widely reported.
(these comments aren't directly targeted to the above person I am replying to, but also in general to those that bolster Mac computers up onto a pedestal while shrugging off the merits of the PC platform.)
First computer I used was a Mac SE/30. Grew up with both Macs and PCs.
I think Microsoft already made a comeback with Windows7. I also jumped ship after Windows Vista. Windows XP was great, but outdated at that point. Once The Win7 RC hit I was hooked. I installed it on all my computers, Mac and PC. I enjoy it more than OSX.
People don't seem to understand though that Mac isn't the universe's best computer. Apple more or less killed off one of the best composting software packages, Shake, and hasn't done a lot to advance their position as a tool for the professional. People still scream that if you want to do graphic design you have to own a Mac, but I don't see this as the case. I don't see any distinct advantage to using a Mac over a PC when it comes to graphic design... besides looking fashionable and trendy for your clients?
Besides applications like our beloved (mine at least) Photoshop, there's a lot of the tools of the trade I use that aren't available on the Mac platform, and those that are, don't run so well. Maya is a great example. Although not one of my main programs, it still gets used a bit with my clients. I was really excited when they brought it to OSX, but always found it to run rather clunky.
I get people that sit there and tell me I can use this or that program instead, but it's kind of hard to do that when my client wants files delivered in say, 3dsmax. It gets even harder when I'm working closely with a client on scenes in these windows only programs.
I like both my Mac and my PC. I often cite the hatred of mac/pc fanboys over the other platform though as a reason why there can never be world peace. Why do people get so up in arms because someone else uses a different kind of computer? Why does it matter if someone uses a PC? Why does it matter if someone uses a Mac? Why does a person's choice in a computer make them any less of a person? And why, because someone uses a PC, does that make them the person buying the economy car instead of the luxury sedan? There is such a thing as a quality PC, not all of them are made of Dell and HP's budget line of computers after all.
To those that argue that people should save up for a mac instead of buying a cheap pc... well, I guess you haven't spent much time living in poverty. Mac isn't a very accessible computer for those without much money, even in the used computer market. It's not always a wise investment. A cheap computer, properly taken care of, can last just as long. That extra money can be used on something more important... like a Bus pass, food, a car, collage fund, etc.
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You're selling HP short. You may not like HP, but not everything they produce is junk. HP is known for making some pretty good workstations. And unlike apple, they update their workstations more often than every two years. Also, because they are PCs, if we want to upgrade certain parts of them we're not at the whim of when apple decides to release an update.
I put some serious thought into a Mac Pro once. The whole graphics card part killed me. The only graphics card upgrade they offered was over priced and outdated. I could stick a PC graphics card in there, but then I'd lose my ability to use OSX.
HP also makes some mighty fine monitors in the professional segment too. I've worked with them a lot and love them. You can scream all you want about apple's monitors, and they are nice, but that doesn't mean HP's monitors aren't nice either.
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All empires eventually come crashing down.![]()
Someone PLEASE give Gartner a copy of Keynote. I'm tired of seeing the same fugly table.
Also, who are these people who purchase HP? It took just one phone call to their customer service center in India for me to realize just how awful they are.![]()