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Yeah... the grade school slams regarding AVP fall into three general categories: it's trash, the four people who own them blah blah blah, and the 2 AVP developers making apps blah blah blah.

It's a shame that people who are genuinely interested in AVP and its potential going forward have to wade through all of that.
The positive is the Vision Pro sales and subsequent owners who are still actively engaged with the product means not many are inconvenienced at all.
 
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The positive is the Vision Pro sales and subsequent owners who are still actively engaged with the product means not many are inconvenienced at all.

Well... as one who is very interested in the AVP gen 2 (having a potential app to develop in mind), it would be nice to not have to wade through all of the grade-school level AVP slams (in addition to all of the daily Apple/Cook hate) that doesn't add anything to the overall conversation, and is a huge distraction. No doubt people have moved to other places due to that. I'm a member of another Mac/tech centric forum where that doesn't occur at all.

Regarding AVP sales... the numbers I've seen reported in various places range from 400,000 to 500,000 units.

Also: I very much appreciate the feedback (both good and not so good) from actual AVP owners here. Thank You!
 
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I’ve seen multiple comments on here about how the best use for VP is as a Mac display/entertainment. If that’s the case why doesn’t apple just lean it to that and make a VP lite that’s stripped of all unnecessary components, make it plastic and sell it for around 600 bucks. I’m sure it would sell
The reason that the Mac display is apparently so good is because it can specifically be very high resolution in the headset.
And those screens? Estimates put them at about $1000 together.
The raw material cost for VP is estimated to have been at about $1500 per unit and the high resolution micro OLED displays make up the bulk of that.
So it doesn’t really matter how many other things they remove, the point is that as long as those displays cost that much, the retail cost of any device using them is likely to be in the thousands.
Meta and Samsung take a much bigger loss than Apple is willing to and even still their headsets that are even comparable to the VP in resolution were/are $1500 and $1800 respectively.
This mythical $600 plastic headset that isn’t screen quality equivalent to a 720P LCD just doesn’t exist.
 
The killer app for me is the immersive way to watch high-quality films. I don’t have access to a good movie theater and this is rekindled my love for movies. And yes, I do have at home. A very very large 4K TV but the Vision Pro is much better for watching films
What kind of TV do you have? OLED? What size and model? I'm curious as an OLED/movie/theater lover how the AVP will be vs a big OLED for watching a movie. Plex user?
 
Nice to know about it. As for now don’t see any particularly useful app for the general users. Also price of the device has to be lowered even if there is a great app.
 
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I’ve seen multiple comments on here about how the best use for VP is as a Mac display/entertainment. If that’s the case why doesn’t apple just lean it to that and make a VP lite that’s stripped of all unnecessary components, make it plastic and sell it for around 600 bucks. I’m sure it would sell

There's no way you're getting the M5 chip and that display for $600 never mind the rest of it. That alone is $1500 i'd say. You still need pass through for the peripheral use, so you still need the entire AR side and pipeline too.
 
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