Apple ID Verification

[Poob Bubes]

I keep getting this pop up every week or so. It tells me to enter my Apple ID password in settings. iOS 9.1 on iPhone 6S. Is this happening to anyone else?

I do have 2-factor authentication on but it was set up well over a year ago.

 

[gsmornot]

I keep getting this pop up every week or so. It tells me to enter my Apple ID password in settings. iOS 9.1 on iPhone 6S. Is this happening to anyone else?

I do have 2-factor authentication on but it was set up well over a year ago.

Try going to Settings-iCloud and clicking on your profile. It should ask you to use your login. I was getting the popup after the 9.1 update until I did this.

BTW-You have two-step if you have been setup for a year. Two-factor was just recently made available.

 

[Poob Bubes]

Try going to Settings-iCloud and clicking on your profile. It should ask you to use your login. I was getting the popup after the 9.1 update until I did this.

BTW-You have two-step if you have been setup for a year. Two-factor was just recently made available.

I can't remember if I tried that or not but I'll see if it works.
Two-step verification was made available in March 2013: http://9to5mac.com/2013/03/21/apple-beefs-up-icloud-apple-id-security-with-two-step-verification/

 

[C DM]

I've been getting it about once a week or two recently as well.

 

[gsmornot]

Two-step verification was made available in March 2013: http://9to5mac.com/2013/03/21/apple-beefs-up-icloud-apple-id-security-with-two-step-verification/

Right, that's what I said.
You: "I do have 2-factor authentication on but it was set up well over a year ago."
Me: "BTW-You have two-step if you have been setup for a year. Two-factor was just recently made available."
You: "Two-step verification was made available in March 2013"

Not trying to argue, just point out the difference in what you have and what you stated. Factor came with the release of iOS 9. Hope the manual login via the iCloud works. It stopped asking me thankfully.

 

[Poob Bubes]

Right, that's what I said.
You: "I do have 2-factor authentication on but it was set up well over a year ago."
Me: "BTW-You have two-step if you have been setup for a year. Two-factor was just recently made available."
You: "Two-step verification was made available in March 2013"

Not trying to argue, just point out the difference in what you have and what you stated. Factor came with the release of iOS 9. Hope the manual login via the iCloud works. It stopped asking me thankfully.

Ok, I wasn't aware they changed the terminology. I knew that they were using a revised method now but thought the terms were used interchangeably.

 

[Poob Bubes]

On a side note, is there any way to switch to the new two-factor authentication?

 

[gsmornot]

Ok, I wasn't aware they changed the terminology. I knew that they were using a revised method now but thought the terms were used interchangeably.

Its a difference in technology and security method. Two step and two factor are different things. To make a long story short, someone with your login could in theory fake your phone. In doing this they could have access to both steps of the two step login process. With two factor its much more difficult. Quick side bar, there are three factors in security...something you know (password, pin), something you have (card, phone), something you are bio-metric (eyes, fingerprint). When you get cash at an ATM you have two factors, your card and your pin for example. With Apple, the first step would be a password like you use now, the second factor would be a device (not the login on the device like you have now but the physical device) and a code that will appear on the device. Someone could again have your phone and password but they have to have your phone where as in the past with two step they only needed to have something that imitated your phone. Well, I don't think you wanted all of these details but bottom line is, good for you using two step, its way better than just password. Your next step if desired is two factor and the info is around.

On a side note, is there any way to switch to the new two-factor authentication?

Yes. The only way I have found to do it is to login to the apple ID site and turn two step off, setup some security questions (forces you to do this) and then go back to your phone and look in iCloud, your ID, security and look at the bottom for the "Turn Two-Factor On".

 

[ZebraDude]

very interesting! I had no idea there was a difference. I guess I cannot get 2 factor authentication as I have a third generation Apple TV. oh well, keeping 2 step!

 

[ZebraDude]

When can I turn on two-factor authentication?
Account security is a priority at Apple. Our goal is to make the enhanced security of two-factor authentication so integrated and easy to use that we can offer it to virtually everyone that uses our products.

With hundreds of millions of users in the Apple ecosystem using a variety of devices and software versions, this will take time. To ensure the best experience possible, we'll roll out two-factor authentication gradually starting this fall.

Two-factor authentication will be made available to users who meet the system requirements below on all the devices they use with their Apple ID.

• iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with iOS 9
• Mac with OS X El Capitan and iTunes 12.3
• Apple Watch with watchOS 2
• Apple TV (4th generation) with tvOS
• Windows PC with iCloud for Windows v.5 and iTunes 12.3

Other criteria will also be used to determine availability. So even if you meet all the system requirements, you might not be offered two-factor authentication right away. We'll increase availability over time, until we can offer the feature to everyone.

 

[gsmornot]

On a side note, is there any way to switch to the new two-factor authentication?

very interesting! I had no idea there was a difference. I guess I cannot get 2 factor authentication as I have a third generation Apple TV. oh well, keeping 2 step!

You make a good point. Apple has a list of minimum qualifications to use the service. Best to check that prior to trying a change since you will not be offered the option if you do not meet the requirements. I will go look for the link and come back with an edit.

Edit: I see you have posted the info. Thanks. I do not have an Apple TV at the moment but if I do get one, it will be a new one. I have other devices at the moment serving this need.

 

[ZebraDude]

You make a good point. Apple has a list of minimum qualifications to use the service. Best to check that prior to trying a change since you will not be offered the option if you do not meet the requirements. I will go look for the link and come back with an edit.

see above! ^^^^^ it was pulled from the Apple Support site!

 

[ZebraDude]

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205075

 

[Poob Bubes]

Yes. The only way I have found to do it is to login to the apple ID site and turn two step off, setup some security questions (forces you to do this) and then go back to your phone and look in iCloud, your ID, security and look at the bottom for the "Turn Two-Factor On".

Thanks, that information is interesting. I just successfully migrated to two-factor. The authentication popup is now much more informative and gave me a map/location that my other device was trying to sign in from. I take it I can toss my old Recovery Keys now.

 

[gsmornot]

Thanks, that information is interesting. I just successfully migrated to two-factor. The authentication popup is now much more informative and gave me a map/location that my other device was trying to sign in from. I take it I can toss my old Recovery Keys now.

Your old keys no longer apply to your new security configuration. (its your choice to toss them) I can't think of a reason they would be needed again but I hesitate to tell someone to get rid of something. I no longer have mine.

 

[webbuzz]

Yes. The only way I have found to do it is to login to the apple ID site and turn two step off, setup some security questions (forces you to do this) and then go back to your phone and look in iCloud, your ID, security and look at the bottom for the "Turn Two-Factor On".

That's what I did last week and it worked.