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Bolt for $37K - $10K credit. So $27K for a very modern nice riding well appointed car.

I pay slightly less for power 100% generated by wind than a mix of "emission producing" sources. It is incredibly easy and much cheaper per mile in energy and maintenance than a traditional car.

And on the rare occasions I have to go on a road trip more than 200 miles I use the money I save to rent a car.

Electric cars aren't the right answer for everyone and for every situation, but it would be good if we actually used updated facts and information when they do come up in discussion, whether in jest or seriously.

The $10k tax credit is about to go bye bye. That's really going to hurt electric vehicle sales.
 
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Yeah, love paying $40,000 for a civic that can't go on a road trip and needs to be charged for 12 hours using power plant emission producing electricity that isn't free.

Can't take a joke huh?

In any case, I've gone through plenty of road trips with my EV. Also haven't paid for electricity for the last 2000 miles I've driven. Eventually all electricity will come from renewables at some time in the future. Lastly, it only took 40 minutes to recharge most of the battery using a super charger, basically the time it took me to order and eat a burger from In-n-Out.
 
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How is this even possible? If an app starts misbehaving and sucking down all available resources in the background, the system should kill it.

Hell, my legitimate SSH app often gets killed in the background, making me have to log in again even though it's doing nothing but keeping a single idle TCP socket open. How did Gas Buddy get away with hanging the damn phone?

There are different rules for apps that use certain background services like GPS. This allows GPS apps to stay alive and continue to provide accurate locations the moment the phone is unlocked again. If they're acting improperly, they could continuously poll the GPS and do other fun that could cause battery drain and other issues.
 
What's the point in buying an electric vehicle when the range is so limited? And if you want to commute in major cities in an electric vehicle, you better have a hybrid that can run on gas when the traffic crawls to a snail pace. There goes the battery power.

Everyone is different. If someone lives only a few miles from work and never goes on road trips, an electric vehicle is absolutely the best option for them.

Don't put down a technology just because it's not the right fit for you. Every electric car sold benefits us all because we will be less dependent on fossil fuel and will be spewing less pollution into the atmosphere.
 
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What's the point in buying an electric vehicle when the range is so limited? And if you want to commute in major cities in an electric vehicle, you better have a hybrid that can run on gas when the traffic crawls to a snail pace. There goes the battery power.

I've never had range anxiety in my Model 3. I drove straight from my house near LA to Las Vegas without stopping. Las Vegas Hotels have free chargers too, so my car was ready to drive back home the moment I left the hotel. For trips longer than 310+ miles, I charge while I have lunch. Takes about 30-40 minutes to charge the majority of the battery using a Supercharger.
 
Yeah, love paying $40,000 for a civic that can't go on a road trip and needs to be charged for 12 hours using power plant emission producing electricity that isn't free.

You do realize that even using 100% coal, power plant power used in a EV is still less than half the emissions? Not to mention electricity is dirt cheap compared to gas. As for road trips, there are more than enough DC fast charge stations these days to get ~100 miles in under 20 or 30 min. It's not 2010 anymore.
 
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I think updating apps every time the developer changes some little thing is both a waste of time for the end user and risky. I rarely update any of my apps anymore because I've been burned enough times to know better.
 
Credits are going away. They are still a step backward in terms of utility and are still expensive.

$35k Model 3 coming next year.

It's actually an improvement as a daily commute vehicle. You always start the day with a full battery and never need to worry about getting gas before driving to work.

Compared to gas cars, I guess you can imagine you always start the day with half a tank. Can you get through the day with half a tank of gas? For most, yes. If not, EV isn't for you (though, probably the job isn't right for you if you're commuting that much on a daily basis).
 
What's the point in buying an electric vehicle when the range is so limited? And if you want to commute in major cities in an electric vehicle, you better have a hybrid that can run on gas when the traffic crawls to a snail pace. There goes the battery power.

Most decent EVs can go more than 200 miles these days, and even the cheaper models can manage at least 150. When traffic crawls to a snail's pace, EVs can easily shut down the motor, unlike ICEs, which burns gas even when the car is not moving. There is also regenerative braking which will help extend the range. I'm not seeing a range issue for most people.
 
I had a battery problem with Coinbase on iOS 12. Something was eating up my battery very quickly so I checked and Coinbase was at the top of the usage list (despite only every viewing the widget). Removed the widget, reboot, and my battery life has been back to normal.
 
There are different rules for apps that use certain background services like GPS. This allows GPS apps to stay alive and continue to provide accurate locations the moment the phone is unlocked again. If they're acting improperly, they could continuously poll the GPS and do other fun that could cause battery drain and other issues.

I understand if the app crashes or doesnt start, but how does an App Store application cause an endless boot loop?
 
Credits are going away. They are still a step backward in terms of utility and are still expensive.

Anyway, to be on topic, Gas Buddy actually saves you money on the road by sort of being a slickdeals of gas stations. The other benefit is, after a 5 minute fill up, I can go another ~400 miles and there are literally thousands of gas stations.

I am not trying to hijack, and yes this is the strength of gasoline cars. But it is almost as if you didn't read the rest of my post. They are not at all a step backwards, ASSUMING majority of your need is less than 200 miles/day. In fact it is much more of a pain to go to a gas station and "fill up" then to just plug my car in. And yes if your needs exceed daily range they are not a good match. But to simply say "gas is better" is not complete nor correct.

Also electric cars do save money, so I am not sure why saving money from paying full price for gas vs paying less to start with is a better point.

This is even before the fun and utility of kicking some serious butt off the line specially in stop and go traffic with instant torque and HP. Love the look on BMW and Porsche drivers for the first 2-3 seconds when a economy box car smokes them.... :)
 
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If it only affects iPhone 8, X and Xs then it points to a hardware flaw rather than an iOS issue.

Supposedly happens with Waze app too from source so what other apps are affected?

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/9q8cbt/fyi_spinning_circle_of_death_fix/

It's such a simple app that it's overkill even on a $50 phone and why is GasBuddy app 210MB on iOS but only 38MB on Android?

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gasbuddy/id406719683?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo=4

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gbis.gbandroid
 
Oh, so it wasn't just me? Ok. App hasn't worked anyway since iOS 12. Hope they fix it soon.
 
You do realize that even using 100% coal, power plant power used in a EV is still less than half the emissions? Not to mention electricity is dirt cheap compared to gas. As for road trips, there are more than enough DC fast charge stations these days to get ~100 miles in under 20 or 30 min. It's not 2010 anymore.
Electric cars don't just stop with filling them up with electricity though. The power used and emissions produced to make the thousands of battery cells in that car isn't very clean. Look deeper. Studies have shown electric cars are very bad for the environment and many times are worse than their cas counterparts. Making batteries is one of the nastiest processes in the world.

Electric cars also haven't shown to have the life of gas cars. Those batteries need to be replaced too. Gas cars can run 200,000+ miles with very little maintenance.
 
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Might be time for Apple to activate that system on iOS that allows them to remote disable/remove an app that is misbehaving or has malware that got through their screening. Not sure if they've ever had to activate this system, but I know that it exists because they talked about it a long time ago not long after the App Store launched. You guys know what I'm talking about? I don't know if it has a name.
It’s called revoking the signing certificate. The app literally won’t launch then.
[doublepost=1540248417][/doublepost]And...when Apple gets their hands on the GasBuddy app code, if they ever do, they’re going to see that advertising network that’s selling user data coded in. Uh oh. :eek:
[doublepost=1540248469][/doublepost]But seriously...how is an app able to hijack the whole OS? There’s a huge flaw in the code then.
 
This happened to me the other night when I was at the grocery store. I have the XS and couldn't figure out how to force reboot it. Took me about an hour to figure it out. It just kept spinning. Not fun.
 
I understand if the app crashes or doesnt start, but how does an App Store application cause an endless boot loop?

That I can't answer. I'm positive Apple will be investigating and making changes to prevent such behavior in the future. Operating systems will always be imperfect systems. They're massively complex at this point, so there's always opportunity for error and issues. It's actually great when things like this happen as they bring it to attention and get the issue resolved much faster, resulting in a better product for all of us.
 
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