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TV shows and Movies just aren't worth more than $10 for a months worth of viewing. If they want to be valued higher, they're going to have to make more valuable content.

You're entitled to your opinion but I disagree, I think Netflix is a tremendous value. That's if you like television or documentaries, their movie selection isn't as good, although they have quite a few movies. But being able to watch complete series on-demand of shows like Lost, Fringe, Poirot, White Collar, The Borgias, Mad Men, and hundreds of others is great. And older shows that aren't even on the air anymore like Mission Impossible, Friends, Frasier, Twin Peaks, all the Star Trek series, etc.

Sure, you can have a cable subscription and a TiVo and theoretically watch all of them, but you have to have set the season pass If you miss it, too bad. Plus you need to skip over commercials, which there is no need for with Netflix. And of course with Netflix you can watch shows on your tablet, phone, or computer as well as tv, and your progress will sync across all of them (some cable companies have apps to do this but they are usually terrible and many are subject to various restrictions).

You could watch Netflix all day, every day, and take a long time to get through even a small piece of it. They also let you watch 2 different simultaneous streams, so you can share the subscription with someone else in your family or a friend (they have a slightly more expensive subscription that allows 4 streams).
 
If this is to succeed it needs to be international not just the US. Then you have international copyright etc. Apple have already seen the biggest markets are not the US but China/Asia. So it would need to expand their viewing audience.

If not then other countries will subscribe to their won system. Harder later to get them to switch later even if Apple does bring it into their country.
 
I watched all the Warriors games on league pass. I live on the east coast btw. Just a heads up. They are never blocked out for me.

Right, they are blacked out in the local area of that team. So yes, you can watch them from another area, but in most cases, people are going to want to watch their local team, which is a no-go with LP.
 
I'll believe it when I see it. TV service content for only the channels I want a'la carte is great but let's see what the price will be.....
 
Isn't bundles of pre-selected content (that you don't get to choose the components of) exactly what we're trying to get away from? If a bundle includes every channel I want except ESPN (or <insert your channel here>), it's no good. And meanwhile you're paying for QVC and The Golf Channel, which you will never watch.

Plus, there is still the problem of cable-owned channels that carry sports. For example Comcast Sports Net carries Golden State Warriors games, and that is not likely to be included in a bundle, as the cable company owns it. And you can't even watch it by paying separately for NBA League Pass because it will be blacked out in your area, thanks to Comcast and the NBA.

You could jailbreak and get around that local issue.
 
What type of content bundles?

On Apple hardware is nice, but what types of bundles. Hopefully will be across networks. Also really nice if you can actually put together the shows you want...but that maybe 10.0!
 
If it's under $10/month, I'll subscribe to 1... ONE tv/movie streaming service. Right now that's Netflix, because they have TV, Film, no ads, and any content the studios refuse to make available to them, I torrent.


TV shows and Movies just aren't worth more than $10 for a months worth of viewing. If they want to be valued higher, they're going to have to make more valuable content.

I had to laugh at this. Al the movies and TV's that can be shown in an month isn't worth more than what you probably spend on going out to lunch one day.
 
The sad thing is Apple just dropped a billion dollars on a dead medium instead of investing that money in the future of media - video.

While you obviously feel strongly enough to post this exact same comment in every thread, there is no reasonable indicator that music is or will become a "dead medium".

Anyway, let's hope that Apple does something interesting with the TV soon. It's definitely stagnating.
 
This should all be really simple. Since I have AT&T wireless service, all I want to do is subscribe to U-Verse TV over LTE/Wifi with a U-Verse app on my iPhone/iPad/Mac and watch live U-Verse TV, and flip through whichever channels I want, just as if I was on a real TV with the U-Verse box. U-Verse signal comes into the home on what is essentially a data connection, and LTE is another form of a data connection. Put 2 and 2 together, and give me wireless TV on my phone. No, I don't want a big screen TV, I like being on the go. My 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus is "Good Enough" for me to enjoy TV. Yeah, I know I miss out on the immersive stuff of a big screen, and I know I won't get the surround sound, but for the portability plus the ability to take watch the content anywhere, the iPhone screen is again, good enough! Plus, with a mobile TV, if I'm out and about, and I want to catch some TV, I can watch TV on the bus, I can watch it on the train, I can watch it at the gym, I can watch it virtually anywhere I am. I can even watch it by the beach while I'm taking a break from riding my bike. The future of entertainment is mobile, not in the theater experience. I want to be able to enjoy my content anywhere I please. Roll that out, and you've got my business. It's that simple!
 
1.) This better not mean the end of the (limited) free channels we have w/current Apple TV.

2.) Not willing to pay unless said channels will be without commercials, like Netflix. Same reason I refuse to pay for Hulu +. (Back in the '80s, when you paid for cable TV, you paid for commercial free content, we want that back. Period. We have made that statement with our Netflix subscriptions.)
 
The sad thing is Apple just dropped a billion dollars on a dead medium instead of investing that money in the future of media - video.

Are you the same guy from the other thread who is convinced music is dead because video exists?

How can you fail to see - as with radio, CDs, iTunes and now streaming that music is not dead, but a separate entity from video?
 
Content providers will do more than not budge,,,,, they'll stick their tongue out at u. :p
 
Honestly, all I want on my AppleTV that is missing is BBC World News, France24 (French and English feeds), and, when the Olympics are happening, a channel with multiple streams of live events and replays. That's all the more I personally need.
 
Apple charges $5.99 to rent a movie, so I can imagine what a TV service will cost.

You think the rental pricing being that high is Apple's doing? It's quite clear the studios have been greedy for years. I myself think if all films were $5 and included all the extra content at a great quality lots of people who torrent would choose to pay: for convenience, great quality and out of respect for being charged a fair price for those bits of entertainment data. And the studios would make a lot more money in the long run too I'd bet. But rest assured they have no intention of thinking sensibly about this.
 
I have a LARGE iTunes library, and until they fix the interface on the Apple TV to be more large library friendly (Hey apple, Look at PLEX) ill be sticking with Plex and the FireTV.

As soon as you have 100s rather than 10s of movies or TV shows the Apple TV becomes unusable and klunky .

I would say apple need to fix the interface before adding more content
 
New content is key to get people invested in the relevant platform.

If Apple could open it's iTunes Movie & TV Show content for streaming (it already has rental, so I cannot see why not), then people would sign up by the bus loads, even if they charge £15/m for it.

I'll be at the back of the bus.
 
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I have a LARGE iTunes library, and until they fix the interface on the Apple TV to be more large library friendly (Hey apple, Look at PLEX) ill be sticking with Plex and the FireTV.

If Plex and Fire TV works for you then what's your problem?

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A lot of Apple fans live in fantasyland on this topic. They imagine just getting the shows they want at a fraction of the price and sticking it to those evil cable companies.

The current model allows the content creators a lot of money. They aren't going to give up that model unless a new model makes them a similar amount of money or their is a massive disruption to the current delivery model.

The disruption is happening slowly. The more services like Netflix improve the more people may choose to dump their cable boxes. If enough people do then something has to change. The question remains will that happen? And if so how long will we take to reach that point?

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New content is key to get people invested in the relevant platform.

If Apple could open it's iTunes Movie & TV Show content for streaming (it already has rental, so I cannot see why not).

Because Apple doesn't own that content and can't just arbitrarily make decisions like that. I myself think one way Apple could have controlled this conversation long ago would be if they had have taken control of sports worldwide (they certainly have the money to do this). Every so often these sports come on the chopping block but Apple doesn't put in a bid. Apple could pay these sports institutions such as NBA, FIFA, Premier League Soccer, NFL etc. etc. billions for years-long contracts and provide those channels for free on the Apple TV and literally most sports fans on the planet would now own an Apple TV and then they would be in a great position of negotiation power. And perhaps then they could also globalise content rights with sports and when brokering deals simplifying the whole procedure for customers giving them all the same content at the same time for the same or very similar prices worldwide.

Pipe-dream™
 
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What I am hoping for is an actual new product not just a new way to stream stuff (although that is nice).

I would love to see a large screen TV with a hard drive and voice activation. You could record all your shows, so no need for DVR. You could tell Siri, "Record all new episodes of The Daily Show". Or "What sports are on today?"

That would be revolutionary and no new technology would be necessary. I don't understand why they don't do that. I think it would be very popular and with sagging tablet sales and tons of phone competition, they would do well to have a new groundbreaking piece of hardware.
 
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