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Oh well, I'll just set up my kids on my Office 365 family and give them a terabyte. 1TB for me, 1TB for my wife and one each for my 3 children. For £7.99.

Silly Apple.
 
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I’m sorry but I have little sympathy for anyone on here complaining about having to spend either $12 or $36/year for 50GB or 200GB of cloud storage, respectively, on a device that at a minimum cost you $329 and much more than that monthly for your mobile carrier service.

Gimme a break. :rolleyes:
 
Get them used to 200gb then yank it away from them when they graduate = Profit.

Unfortunately, it looks like this will take more than a .edu address to work.
 
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I’m sorry but I have little sympathy for anyone on here complaining about having to spend either $12 or $36/year for 50GB or 200GB of cloud storage, respectively, on a device that at a minimum cost you $329 and much more than that monthly for your mobile carrier service.

Gimme a break. :rolleyes:
People aren't concerned about the cost, they're concerned with Apple nickle and dimming their loyal patrons. I'm with the majority that say we we already paid apple a premium for an apple device and that Apple isn't showing good faith by making us pay additional ongoing fees. That being said, it doesn't irritate me enough to switch to another brand which is why investors love apple I guess.
 
I have the 200 GB plan and share it with my family of 6 total people (my wife and 4
Children). We use it for backup etc. it costs $3. IF I want the 2 TB plan, I could just pay $10 per month for the whole family. Family sharing is available. Also since I always buy iTunes gift cards at about 20 % discount, I get almost 20% off on all these (as well as any other app store related purchases including Netflix, apps, etc. )
 
I’m sorry but I have little sympathy for anyone on here complaining about having to spend either $12 or $36/year for 50GB or 200GB of cloud storage, respectively, on a device that at a minimum cost you $329 and much more than that monthly for your mobile carrier service.

Gimme a break. :rolleyes:

If you bought a brand new Mercedes, and the fuel light immediately came on, wouldn’t that annoy you? Especially when Kia give you a full tank with a car that costs a third as much. It’s not about the cost, it’s more about the arrogance of a super rich company demanding you pay them less than they could lose down the back of the sofa for something that others give away. It’s such a tiny amount of money, they wouldn’t even notice if they lost it - but it annoys their customers, some of whom might stop buying thousand dollar phones. It makes no sense.

I stopped using iCloud photos, because Google backs them up for free, and so do Amazon and Microsoft for a small fee, which also includes much more space, a better office suite which works on all my devices, including Windows and Android, free delivery, TV, music, books.
 
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Who the hell needs 200gb of cloud
People that don't know how to optimize their images. Nor do they delete what they take photos of.
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If you bought a brand new Mercedes, and the fuel light immediately came on, wouldn’t that annoy you? Especially when Kia give you a full tank with a car that costs a third as much. It’s not about the cost, it’s more about the arrogance of a super rich company demanding you pay them less than they could lose down the back of the sofa for something that others give away. It’s such a tiny amount of money, they wouldn’t even notice if they lost it - but it annoys their customers, some of whom might stop buying thousand dollar phones. It makes no sense.
Well said.
[doublepost=1522185819][/doublepost]I spent way too much money at the library taking photo copies of reference books. With the ability to take photos/scanning of books the students may quickly fill up their storage.
 
I’m sorry but I have little sympathy for anyone on here complaining about having to spend either $12 or $36/year for 50GB or 200GB of cloud storage, respectively, on a device that at a minimum cost you $329 and much more than that monthly for your mobile carrier service.

Gimme a break. :rolleyes:

Look at it this way --

A happy user buys an iPhone, which includes the whole ecosystem and provides an adequate (but by no means generous) amount of iCloud storage to back up their data, apps, configuration, and a small number of photos, without any additional incremental cost.

That user is happy enough with the iPhone to want an iPad, which will require additional space to accommodate the data it generates.

Based on their experience with iOS, the user then decides to switch from their PC, and buy a Mac, which may have its own storage needs.

I think most would say that such an Apple user is beneficial to the company, and such a user should expect a good, seamless user experience, feeling that their loyalty is appreciated, and not feeling nickled-and-dimed; these are premium products that command higher prices, after all.

But what is the single constant in this scenario? That Apple ID that links all those products and is so essential to operating within the Apple ecosystem still only has 5GB allocated to it without any additional fees.

I don't think everyone is asking for an unlimited amount of cloud storage gratis, but at the least, an adequate amount to be able to comfortably backup up those three (or more) Apple products without having to scrimp or actively and consciously manage the data generated by their devices for fear of not being able to have enough space for even basic backups.'

Objectively, $12 is a token amount, for both users and Apple, and is likely to be of little consequence in offsetting what it costs Apple to provide that extra storage.

So then, why not provide more space gratis, or charge more?

Because it's yet another a tool to keep users loyal, and inside the ecosystem. Users would not only have to abandon their investment in the apps they've purchased, but the space they've purchased, even at a minimal cost. They've already placed all their eggs into the basket, are paying a price for it, and most users aren't going to want to endure the PITA it would be to move out.

TL;DR:

It's not the cost that is the issue for many, it's the principle.
 
Nice for students but like many others here have said, it is rotten that Apple only offers 5 GB per Apple ID regardless of how many devices that AppleID serves.
 
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I disagree, actually -- because when you pay what Apple typically charges for their hardware, you'd think it should at least help subsidize the cost of some of the cloud storage for you.

Like someone else pointed out -- it really makes the iOS devices look bad when you can't even do a complete iCloud backup because you filled the 5GB storage they provided. At one time, the standard way to back things up was via USB to dock cable and a copy of iTunes, to your own hard drive. Apple was the one who pushed everyone to "think different" about that and get used to it all happening via the Cloud. They should provide enough free storage so basic functionality still works. (EG. Charge me a monthly fee if and when I get interested in moving large quantities of my data, like my photo collection, into Cloud storage. Not just because I left a default backup setting toggled on.)


I’m sorry but I have little sympathy for anyone on here complaining about having to spend either $12 or $36/year for 50GB or 200GB of cloud storage, respectively, on a device that at a minimum cost you $329 and much more than that monthly for your mobile carrier service.

Gimme a break. :rolleyes:
 
You’re also the product. Nothing is “free” with google.

With Apple, you are the product too, it’s just a different type of product. Google wants to know more about you so they can get paid by advertisers to show you relevant ads. Apple doesn’t want to know anything about you, just your credit card details so they can charge you over and over and over again.

Think of yourself as Tim Cooks personal ATM.
 
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I’m sorry but I have little sympathy for anyone on here complaining about having to spend either $12 or $36/year for 50GB or 200GB of cloud storage, respectively, on a device that at a minimum cost you $329 and much more than that monthly for your mobile carrier service.

Gimme a break. :rolleyes:
And I have little sympathy for elitist thinking. Surprised you didn't bring up the 3 coffees/year comparison.

It's not about the $12/year but the principle of when you buy an expensive Apple device, that BASIC backup should be provided for free. As someone else suggested, there should be a free threshold for each device purchased, I personally think it should be 10GB per Device, to enable basic backup. So if you have an iPhone, iPad and a Mac, you should get 30GB of iCloud, then incremental paid-for tiers in 100GB increments. 5GB was never enough since it launched.
Either that or the Onedrive model where many PC manufacturers offer 1TB free for the first year.

As you correctly state, we already spend much $$$ on Apple's increasingly higher priced devices and more for carrier service. It all adds up, but throwing this attitude around of what's another $36, is just plain arrogance.
Not all of us can afford $100+/month carrier plans, I have BYOD data-only plans for a fraction of that.
 
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How does it relate to Google Docs?

My kids use that Google, and I don't think have any storage constraints, of course they're only consuming a tiny amount. I suspect that will be the case for students using iCloud


Of course, that means that all of your children's data is already being loaded into a dossier that Google has set up for them under a "universal identifier" number where every intimate detail of your children's lives will be forever owned by Google to use as Google pleases. Every email they ever get or receive, every photo or video they ever take, everything that Assistant hears them say, everywhere they drive, everything they search for, everything they click on, every document they upload. Sad. Of course, you could lobby your school to let you use Apple to give your kids a fighting chance to protect their privacy from Google and the other people that can access your kid's dossiers, e.g., hackers, intel agencies, goat's, etc.
 
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I have the 200 GB plan and share it with my family of 6 total people (my wife and 4
Children). We use it for backup etc. it costs $3. IF I want the 2 TB plan, I could just pay $10 per month for the whole family. Family sharing is available. Also since I always buy iTunes gift cards at about 20 % discount, I get almost 20% off on all these (as well as any other app store related purchases including Netflix, apps, etc. )
I used to do this too but it’s been a long time since I’ve seen a 20% discount. For the past year 15% has been the best discount I’ve found.
 
This will be very helpful then, especially those loads of GB files that slows down your unit.
 
With Apple, you are the product too, it’s just a different type of product. Google wants to know more about you so they can get paid by advertisers to show you relevant ads. Apple doesn’t want to know anything about you, just your credit card details so they can charge you over and over and over again.

Think of yourself as Tim Cooks personal ATM.
Not the same. At least my data isn’t used over and over for marketing, and sold to advertising companies. That’s why you’re the product with Google, you’re the product being sold to others. Apple is taking my money (not my data) for something in return. I subscribe to Apple Music, how dare that Tim Cook makes me pay money for a service I am getting :rolleyes:

People kept saying google stuff is free, it’s not. Just like Facebook isn’t free.
 
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such cheap f. Unbelievable and inconvenient

At least make sure a backup fits in the cloud. You have no idea how many of my family members / friends don’t get it and r always like BUT I BOUGHT THE 128 GB IPHONE. HOW COULD I HAVE RUN OUT OF STORAGE????

people just disable it „cuz the warning is annoying“ and at the end and r left without a backup, which is dangerous



People with 200GB of photos?

Then pay for it? I dunno. Does any Android OEM offer online backup the same size storage as the device for free? (not talking promos or Photos only like Pixel - those are a good start and we know Apple doesn't compromise by offering promos).

Seriously, I know its confusing (my family included) but no one gets online storage in the 100's of GB for free. If you want free backups, use iTunes.
 
I’m sorry but I have little sympathy for anyone on here complaining about having to spend either $12 or $36/year for 50GB or 200GB of cloud storage, respectively, on a device that at a minimum cost you $329 and much more than that monthly for your mobile carrier service.

Gimme a break. :rolleyes:

Some people buy a 69.000€ BMW outright but when it comes to 99 cent for something digital you can’t touch. NOPE people are weird this way.

In my opinion every new iDevice you add to your AppleID should automatically add another 10 GB. If only to make sure the backup fits
 
You’re also the product. Nothing is “free” with google.
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You may not, but others might.

I use end-to-end encryption for my google education unlimited gDrive. So no one but me can see the content I uploaded. I can share everything on my gDrive with the world, and it will just be gibberish you see. I use 256bits AES for file encryption and RSA 4096 for key pairs. So you need to game the game when it comes to google data harvesting.
 
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Who the hell needs 200gb of cloud
I'm using that much by syncing and backing up every one of the last 20 years of digital photos and videos I've taken. Happy to pay for that 2TB plan, too, because I'm able to share that storage pool with my wife via Family Sharing.
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And if you’re not a student or teacher, that’s your fault and here’s 5 lousy gigs- but thanks for buying the 256gb device!

I'd rather pay than have all my stuff farmed out to data harvesters, thanks. If you prefer that "free" model, there are ample services out there you can use who will gladly host your data for you.
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Apple doesn’t want to know anything about you, just your credit card details so they can charge you over and over and over again.

Think of yourself as Tim Cooks personal ATM.

So, Apple provides a good or service in exchange for money. You just described.... literally every transaction in a capitalist system.
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At one time, the standard way to back things up was via USB to dock cable and a copy of iTunes, to your own hard drive.
You can still do this, nobody is stopping you! I actually do regular full backups to iTunes myself because it's a whole lot more complete of a backup than the iCloud version. If you restore from iCloud, you've got hours of downloading ahead of you, but a full iTunes restore gives you everything.
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I use end-to-end encryption for my google education unlimited gDrive. So no one but me can see the content I uploaded. I can share everything on my gDrive with the world, and it will just be gibberish you see. I use 256bits AES for file encryption and RSA 4096 for key pairs. So you need to game the game when it comes to google data harvesting.
This is smart. For particularly sensitive stuff (bank stuff, etc), I keep an encrypted .dmg disk image file in my Dropbox. It's a bit manual, but it makes me feel better about having it "out there". Your solution sounds a bit more well-integrated. I suppose you lose the ability to do anything through their web interface, though?
 
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