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Can Ron Howard just do the narration for Apple product videos now that Jony is gone?
 
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Why? Men run the world. Or do you need to find yourself again after women started getting recognized as co-equals and deserve the attention Men have firmly held for the past ten thousand years or so.
Chiming in—in some ways, maybe men’s issues need more attention than women’s precisely because they rule the world. If men were mentally and emotionally healthier across the board, maybe there would be more equality and justice in the world.
 
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Why? Men run the world. Or do you need to find yourself again after women started getting recognized as co-equals and deserve the attention Men have firmly held for the past ten thousand years or so.
It’d be nice if people didn’t think of this as a zero-sum game. Just because women are progressing doesn’t mean it’s wrong to be interested in exploring male psychology and male role. In fact, one could argue it’s especially pertinent and interesting as traditions change.
 
Ugh, almost everything they've announced so far for Apple TV+ just sounds absolutely horrible! I hope that I'm proven wrong.

Perhaps one reason is the types of documentaries being made. Seems they avoid areas that could be construed as politically incorrect. In another way they avoid tackling subject matter that would never make it on air. The practice of pre-censorship is alive and well.
 
0% excitement about any show they’ve announced. I wonder if they’ll ever do anything edgy.....my guess is that their programming will stay pretty conservative however.

I'm kind of hoping that Apple's offerings might be a little bit of a port in the storm of all the other 'edgy' stuff out there. I feel like my life isn't any better for watching more things blow up, lives ruined, protracted and ridiculously overwrought fight scenes, and/or apocalyptic-eschatological themes all the time. I totally get that part of basic story telling is drama, and there's a real place for thoughtful fiction that acts as a warning mirror to society in general. But man have we ever amped it up. It's gotten to ridiculous levels and people are so desensitized that it somehow now makes sense and is required for our hero to get hit in the head with a tire iron and yet get up to pound his opponent to mush with technicolor fluids all over the screen. It's really idiotic in a way. I laughed myself silly at Kill Bill Vol 1's big ending because Tarantino was so perfect in how he overdid it. But people think this is somehow now necessary for anything to be considered even remotely good. I for one would appreciate a little of the escapism that's good for the soul that we seem to have abandoned in favour of all the edginess.

/old
//off my soap box now
///will watch this and probably enjoy it
//// sorrynotsorry
 
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Ok. I wonder if they’ll showcase any terrible fathers, like mine, or how my alcoholic & abusive friends turned out in their families, and the effects of that. Or are we going to pretend that “contemporary fathers are vulnerable and self depreciating” because we prefer this unrealistic mythology of families being inherently wonderful, & men being emasculated ponces, etc
I also have a terrible father who was abusive. I am sorry that happened to you. My wife also has a terrible father who was abusive and is in prison.

Not gonna lie though, I am a good father and a champion of fatherhood and all that entails. Or at least I have been told repeatedly by lots of people. I learned what not to do from the first time my father slammed my head into the side of the bathtub until the last time he lashed out at my family a few years ago. He is cut off, along with my mother and sisters who defend and make excuses for him and have largely adopted the same horrible behavior. I have no family, save three grandparents, one aunt, and two cousins who live 110-140 miles away. It's rough. We were very close in this abusive house because we weren't allowed to leave the house much or have friends over. It was very unhealthy and I have received a lot of counseling related to this.

For me, fatherhood is about love and integrity. I can be masculine and be a leader of my household while also being respectful and empathic. It's about leading by example, being firm but also forgiving, and most importantly, being slow to anger. It's about spending time with my kids individually and together and involving both genders in the activities I do.

Our family motto is work hard and be nice. My daughter is five years old and knows how to handle a power drill (with supervision, of course). She is older than my son and has helped me build a lot of things such as tables for my workshop, shelving, and assisted with the construction when I was finishing the rest of our basement. My son also does baking and gardening with his mother and I have started teaching him how to use a screwdriver and other things a 3 year old can handle. We both include them in what we do and make them feel like productive, contributing members of the household because that's what they are. I spend time with them teaching them how to read, how to interact with other people and be respectful, how various processes in the natural world work, math, language, painting, etc. We go on lots of walks together and play in the yard. I intentionally chose a career path where I only work 40 hours per week and get paid less than the industry average for what I do (full stack web design and development) so that I could spend more time with them.

Anyway, the whole point of what I'm saying is that there are a lot of good fathers out there and I feel like bad fathers, or even potential future fathers need to be shown what it is to be a good father. Fortunately I had enough good sense and counseling to become a better person, but many people aren't as fortunate and don't have the willpower to change themselves for the better. I used to be a pretty terrible person, and while I'm far from perfect, I am proud to say that I think I am a good example for my children and I hope they grow up to be even better. Maybe this documentary could help show everyone what good fathering is all about. I'd love to learn some additional tips.

I do hope that they go into the negative consequences of bad fathering, but I hope they don't dwell on it too much. I'm a big believer in positivity in general, despite feeling like I've had a lot of the positivity beaten/drained from my body over the past several years. Everything is so divisive, so it would be nice if men could at least unite behind good fathering and focus on our families more. I think that is the foundation needed to help our society heal. Mothering is also very important, but I feel like too much attention has been paid to that. Mothering can only get you so far, just like fathering can only get you so far. Both are equally important, and unfortunately many more children miss out on fathering altogether, either through divorce or through bad fathers (sometimes both).

Sorry this was so long, but this is something that I am passionate about and feel is very important.
 
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Love how Apple+ is sticking to specific Genres and specific age groups while many of us are mature adults would not mind some mature content movies or TV Shows either way I wish Apple good luck I am sure they will do fine but if they want to gain more customers maybe they need to grow up.
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0% excitement about any show they’ve announced. I wonder if they’ll ever do anything edgy.....my guess is that their programming will stay pretty conservative however.

Not sure if conservative or Liberal PC either one is bad lets not bring politics into this I don't want a migraine.
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Why does this sound horrible? Fatherhood, and the lack of it, is foundational to a person’s development and therefore to society; and the changing of the role from one generation to the next is interesting to say the absolute least. I for one am interested to hear anyone’s insights about their experience as a father or with their own father. The thing about fatherhood is that it’s a universal role that transcends occupation and societal status.


You know what he meant by "horrible".
 
I also have a terrible father who was abusive. I am sorry that happened to you. My wife also has a terrible father who was abusive and is in prison.

Not gonna lie though, I am a good father and a champion of fatherhood and all that entails. Or at least I have been told repeatedly by lots of people. I learned what not to do from the first time my father slammed my head into the side of the bathtub until the last time he lashed out at my family a few years ago. He is cut off, along with my mother and sisters who defend and make excuses for him and have largely adopted the same horrible behavior. I have no family, save three grandparents, one aunt, and two cousins who live 110-140 miles away. It's rough. We were very close in this abusive house because we weren't allowed to leave the house much or have friends over. It was very unhealthy and I have received a lot of counseling related to this.

For me, fatherhood is about love and integrity. I can be masculine and be a leader of my household while also being respectful and empathic. It's about leading by example, being firm but also forgiving, and most importantly, being slow to anger. It's about spending time with my kids individually and together and involving both genders in the activities I do.

Our family motto is work hard and be nice. My daughter is five years old and knows how to handle a power drill (with supervision, of course). She is older than my son and has helped me build a lot of things such as tables for my workshop, shelving, and assisted with the construction when I was finishing the rest of our basement. My son also does baking and gardening with his mother and I have started teaching him how to use a screwdriver and other things a 3 year old can handle. We both include them in what we do and make them feel like productive, contributing members of the household because that's what they are. I spend time with them teaching them how to read, how to interact with other people and be respectful, how various processes in the natural world work, math, language, painting, etc. We go on lots of walks together and play in the yard. I intentionally chose a career path where I only work 40 hours per week and get paid less than the industry average for what I do (full stack web design and development) so that I could spend more time with them.

Anyway, the whole point of what I'm saying is that there are a lot of good fathers out there and I feel like bad fathers, or even potential future fathers need to be shown what it is to be a good father. Fortunately I had enough good sense and counseling to become a better person, but many people aren't as fortunate and don't have the willpower to change themselves for the better. I used to be a pretty terrible person, and while I'm far from perfect, I am proud to say that I think I am a good example for my children and I hope they grow up to be even better. Maybe this documentary could help show everyone what good fathering is all about. I'd love to learn some additional tips.

I do hope that they go into the negative consequences of bad fathering, but I hope they don't dwell on it too much. I'm a big believer in positivity in general, despite feeling like I've had a lot of the positivity beaten/drained from my body over the past several years. Everything is so divisive, so it would be nice if men could at least unite behind good fathering and focus on our families more. I think that is the foundation needed to help our society heal. Mothering is also very important, but I feel like too much attention has been paid to that. Mothering can only get you so far, just like fathering can only get you so far. Both are equally important, and unfortunately many more children miss out on fathering altogether, either through divorce or through bad fathers (sometimes both).

Sorry this was so long, but this is something that I am passionate about and feel is very important.

If you feel as passionate as the details of your posting suggest, perhaps you should make a documentary yourself - tell the world what you want it to hear.
 
I'm kind of hoping that Apple's offerings might be a little bit of a port in the storm of all the other 'edgy' stuff out there. I feel like my life isn't any better for watching more things blow up, lives ruined, protracted and ridiculously overwrought fight scenes, and/or apocalyptic-eschatological themes all the time. I totally get that part of basic story telling is drama, and there's a real place for thoughtful fiction that acts as a warning mirror to society in general. But man have we ever amped it up. It's gotten to ridiculous levels and people are so desensitized that it somehow now makes sense and is required for our hero to get hit in the head with a tire iron and yet get up to pound his opponent to mush with technicolor fluids all over the screen. It's really idiotic in a way. I laughed myself silly at Kill Bill Vol 1's big ending because Tarantino was so perfect in how he overdid it. But people think this is somehow now necessary for anything to be considered even remotely good. I for one would appreciate a little of the escapism that's good for the soul that we seem to have abandoned in favour of all the edginess.

/old
//off my soap box now
///will watch this and probably enjoy it
//// sorrynotsorry

I get what you mean. But to clarify, by edgy, I mean progressive, different, challenging, etc. A show that goes out on a limb and does things differently.

Doesn’t have anything to do with violent content.
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Not sure if conservative or Liberal PC either one is bad lets not bring politics into this I don't want a migraine.

That’s hilarious. But let’s assume you’re not joking however?

I’m not using conservative in a political sense. Conservative filmmaking is not about making Republican propaganda movies and such. The word has quite a history before its recent political appropriation. Check it out.
 
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I get what you mean. But to clarify, by edgy, I mean progressive, different, challenging, etc. A show that goes out on a limb and does things differently.

Doesn’t have anything to do with violent content.
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That’s hilarious. But let’s assume you’re not joking however?

I’m not using conservative in a political sense. Conservative filmmaking is not about making Republican propaganda movies and such. The word has quite a history before its recent political appropriation. Check it out.

I guarantee those kinds of documentaries won’t ever be produced by the Howard family.
 
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I get what you mean. But to clarify, by edgy, I mean progressive, different, challenging, etc. A show that goes out on a limb and does things differently.

Doesn’t have anything to do with violent content.

Ah. I see. Well, all right then, although I'm not sure what that looks like. Television and movies have changed a lot over the years as it is. It seems attention spans are shorter and the shows of today move at speeds that are far more rapid than 10 or 20 years ago. I'd consider that change a little more "edgy" but it isn't the sort of thing one consciously acknowledges. It is interesting though. The movies I loved when I was a kid--the kids today lost interest in minutes because the hook doesn't happen quickly or strongly enough. I sometimes wonder what that means for storytelling. I guess for me, I'd love to slow down and get something a little nicer or more thoughtful, but then, networks and services don't program just for little 'ol me. :rolleyes:
 
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