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Apple's "Image Capture" app is really great for this too, if you haven't tried it.
The brother app is also not bad. I end up using the brother app to scan as it’s in my dock and is easier to load now that Apple removed individual icons for printing and buried all printers in a queue app. Unless I missed something, that makes scanning a couple layers deep.
 
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It was way better than all those inkjet printers they produced, severely lacked networking but had to buy a device to add it to my ethernet, Apple officially nixed it when they dropped Apple talk support in OS X. I have one in storage I should throw out. o_O
 
I had some big strong guys clean out the endless junk that had piled up in my basement over the years. Off went that beast of a printer.

My father won that and an old Mac to go with it at a Michigan State raffle when they first came out. I can't believe I still had it down there.
 
Let us not forget that Steve Job's obsession with font types made the prints beautiful regardless of how great the technology was back then.
That really came from Adobe. Both John Warnock’s and Charles Geshke’s parents had a background in printing/ graphics.

Jobs did understand the value though, he made commitments to invest in Adobe and license PostScript.
 
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When Ethernet came along. Ethernet was an open standard and able to have higher transfer throughput
Apple renamed the physical network layer LocalTalk while AppleTalk remained the protocol. When ethernet came out for Macs in '87/'88 the protocol then became EtherTalk - the AppleTalk protocol over ethernet. There was also TokenTalk for TokenRing networks. AppleTalk (Phase II) was supported until 2009 in OSX 10.6 and the extensions cannot even be installed on an OS beyond Big Sur. The spirit of AppleTalk does live on in Bonjour.
 
Had one in my office. That, with a Mac, let me produce memos and white papers that looked quite a bit better than the IBM PC guys. And it popularized the use of PostScript, a programming language with which one can write software to do amazing things.

The late Don Lancaster wrote some great stuff on programing with Postscript and self publishing.

I've had a couple of Brother laser printers and multi-function devices, and they are solid, reliable, integrate well with Apple tech (you don't need a dedicated app to use the scanner... just open the "Import from scanner…" interface directly in Preview), and the cost of consumables is relatively low.

I had a Brother laser printer and it was a great and cheap to use machine. Replaced it with a Canon multifunction that is now over 10 yearsold.
My favorite that I had in my office for exclusive use was the Phaser Tektronix color 7000 series? I can't exactly remember the number, it's so long ago. That color printer was awesome. Big, heavy but nice having exclusive use of that in my office.

That was the crayon ink one? Those were awesome machines.

I also had an old dasiywheel printer connected to a ][GS via RS232. Great printer.
 
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I’m curious when did AppleTalk actually stop being a thing?

It didn't -
Last release a couple of days ago. (Ok, "official" Appletalk support was removed from MacOS years ago... but Netatalk runs on Macs... crops up on NAS boxes, too)

When Ethernet came along. Ethernet was an open standard and able to have higher transfer throughput

Further to what @epox999 said - While I think it started out as just Appletalk, it got renamed so that AppleTalk was the protocol and the "physical layer" - those little grey boxes and cables with mini-DIN connectors - was called LocalTalk. At the time, it was much cheaper and more "plug-and-play" than ethernet - at least on small workgroup networks. Ethernet got cheaper, though.

You could run the Appletalk protocol over ethernet & get the extra speed and there were various LocalTalk-to-AppleTalk bridge boxes.

TCP/IP is the protocol on which the Internet is pretty much built - and serves much the same purpose as Appletalk. It pre-dates Appletalk but only really took off with the wider adoption of the Internet (with Macs and PCs tending to use proprietary protocols).

Then there are additional layers of Apple printing (PAP) and file sharing protocols (AFP) that sat on top of Appletalk. Later they added support for TCP/IP in place of AppleTalk as the underlying protocol. Then, AFP and PAP they got gradually replaced with things like Samba and CUPS (which embodies a shedload of printimg protocols).
 
Apple renamed the physical network layer LocalTalk while AppleTalk remained the protocol. When ethernet came out for Macs in '87/'88 the protocol then became EtherTalk - the AppleTalk protocol over ethernet. There was also TokenTalk for TokenRing networks. AppleTalk (Phase II) was supported until 2009 in OSX 10.6 and the extensions cannot even be installed on an OS beyond Big Sur. The spirit of AppleTalk does live on in Bonjour.

I forgot all about TokenRing. My high school (94-98) was TokenRing, and we had a pretty even split of Macs and PCs. I remeber TokenRing on PC but didn't know the Macs ran it, too...It was designed by IBM, I think.
 
How technology change and maybe a good thing. It must have been pretty amazing to see at the time., when must printers were dot matrix.

Now I have A Brother colour LED/Laser printer sitting on my desk, that is available for home users, with better quality print and certainly cheaper to buy and use.
 
I remember it well. The university I was getting my master’s at had a room of 20-30 Macs networked together and a LaserWriter at the front of the room. I wrote my master’s thesis there and printed it on the LaserWriter. I think the price was 2 cents a page.
 
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Just a curious question from someone young enough to not have seen Motorola Mac’s ever… did those CPUs need active cooling?
Good question. On the one hand, the original Mac 128k ran effectively without a fan; however from 1985 onwards new Macs featured active cooling.

As you can probably guess, the decision behind no fan on the original model was Steve Jobs, and whilst the machine could run with passive cooling it was widely known that it could easily overheat.
 
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How technology change and maybe a good thing. It must have been pretty amazing to see at the time., when must printers were dot matrix.

Well, at the time dot matrix wasn't considered good enough for "business quality" letters etc. so daisywheel printers with one-shot ribbons were popular if you wanted to write a letter to your bank manager (kids, ask your grandparents about "writing letters" and "bank managers") - and produced very crisp text, better than laser. Ok, it was all in the same font... but most wordprocessors would pause the printing so you could change the wheel to get a different one... er, yes, lasers were rather better all-round :)
 
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The late Don Lancaster wrote some great stuff on programing with Postscript and self publishing.



I had a Brother laser printer and it was a great and cheap to use machine. Replaced it with a Canon multifunction that is now over 10 yearsold.


That was the crayon ink one? Those were awesome machines.

I also had an old dasiywheel printer connected to a ][GS via RS232. Great printer.
Yes crayon ink ones. So expensive those things.
 
Wow, this thread is bringing all of us old timers out for a walk down memory lane, lol. Especially when combined with the post about the original 1984 Macintosh ad a few days ago - that's when I ordered my first Mac, the original 128k. Received it 3-4 months after the order, aloing with the ImageWriter dot matrix printer.

Back to networking, this reminds me of Reese Jones of BMUG fame setting up Farallon Computing to implement a cheap version of AppleTalk for those of us who wanted an inexpensive network...
 
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Fresh out of college, I took a job at a local printer. I'm guessing, 1990ish? The owner went to a trade show, and a week later a giant pile of boxes was in the middle of our "paste up" room...that's right...giant light tables, waxer machines, and a few old film typesetters was what I was using for a year or so, until this fateful day. In the boxes were two macs, I forget now which ones, oh wait, IIci, that was them. And two Supermac or Radius 19" color monitors...but the highlight was a giant laserprinter, not by apple, but by some company from Minnesota if I recall. It was not 300dpi, but 600dpi. It was the grand master of laser printers. It was around $10K for that printer, and $25K for everything. I remember it quite well. He just said "hey, we're going to switch to this stuff, so get it set up and figure it all out"...I had used a mac in school, as part of the printing press classes, not the commercial art/design part of school. But it was just for fun, not to be used for real work. I digress. The dude who worked in the darkroom taking the film from the typesetters and stripped them into paper to burn plates came in. I said "you're going to love this, I'll be able to just give you a sheet of paper to paste up, no more artboards, wax, masking the lines with opaque paint, etc." and he said, and I remember it well, "no thanks, I'll just keep doing my thing, and you do your thing, that stuff won't look nearly as good as the typesetter". And 6 months later he quit. And 30+ years later I'm still doing what I did back then, on Macs, with a laser printer nearby. That was a magic time, all thanks to Steve and Co.
 
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I recall in my elementary and jr. high schools, we had Apple II labs with a spattering of ImageWriter II printers for printing everything from documents to banners. My grade 9 year they replaced the "typing" lab (basically typewriters with keys blacked out) with a new Macintosh lab featuring about 25 Mac Classics connected to a SE/30 server and three printers - two ImageWriters and a LaserWriter. First time I printed a document to the LaserWriter 14-year-old me was amazed at the quality that came out. When Jobs talked about the first laserwriter printer and how "stunning" the print quality was at the time (in his famous response to a strongly-worded question about OpenDoc during the 1997 WWDC town hall), I knew exactly what he was talking about. I lived that experience, and it was pretty awesome.

Amusing side-story: I worked at a Macintosh specialty store in the late 1990s and early 00's. When the Power Mac G5 first came out with its liquid cooling, one of the techs quipped that between the G5 and the LW8500, he was sure he'd have some work orders come across his desk asking him to change the coolant or check the oil.

The warehouse of that store had a computer with which we used to print barcode price labels - the printer on that machine was an ImageWriter II that never quit. The only reason that printer was eventually retired (2005) was because track-fed labels were becoming harder to find.
 
The invention of the personal laser printer was one of the pivotal moments in personal technology. I got my laser jet II on sale for about $1,500 and it served me well for years.
 
The same year the LaserWriter was introduced Aldus Pagemaker was also introduced and real desktop publishing began. I used Pagemaker 4 and up. Then went to Adobe InDesign after Pagemaker. I ran a super small printshop for 24 years. Saw a lot of changes in that time. I never got to use an Apple LaserWriter but, always wanted one.
 
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Apple introduced the LaserWriter 40 years ago today, forming a cornerstone of what became known as the desktop publishing revolution.
That sort of revolutionary innovation is something that hasn't happened during Tim Cook's reign as CEO. That's because Cook is a mediocre corporate suit with an MBA degree, who prioritizes maximizing profits for shareholders as the greatest good.
 
That sort of revolutionary innovation is something that hasn't happened during Tim Cook's reign as CEO. That's because Cook is a mediocre corporate suit with an MBA degree, who prioritizes maximizing profits for shareholders as the greatest good.
Except it has. Maybe you don’t follow modern apple (that is apple that is younger than 2025 as your apple clock seemingly stops at 2011), but there was this little thing called an AirPod, that changed an industry.

And to be complete the HP Laserjet came out in 1984, while apple released its own laserjet in 1985. And the laser engine was invente at Xerox Parc by Gary Starkweather.
 
Wasn’t the LaserWriter not a rebadged HP printer? Apple licensed postscript from Adobe and you were able to print all sorts of typography. It was the starting of desktop publishing and made Apple big in the printing and graphic industry.
No, both the early Apple and HP lasers were Canon engine based.
 
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