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Yawn. Apple is behind the times again. Music is played out. Apple really needs to shift its focus to the medium of the 21st century, video.

Audio-less video? I think some of the new 21st century videos coming out have sound, but I'm no expert.
 
Kind of like removing the CD/DVD drive from computers? :)

Progress..

Are you being sarcastic? Headphones that I could only use with my iPhone would suck (forget that they're Beats too), but it was a good idea to get rid of the DVD drives in laptops.

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Exactly what i was thinking. Everyone thought the macbook air was nuts not to have one when it was released. Look at the market now.

The market could only use Lightning headphones if Apple were to let other companies use Lightning connectors, which they do not. Also, this is a "people thought the airplane would never work" argument. There should be a word for that.
 
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This is kind of scary... Not the article, but the concept that the headphone jack will still exist is lost on many in this thread.
 
Anyone "across the pond" think the EU isn't going to like this? They already don't like the lightening port as a proprietary charging port.

If this means Apple is getting rid of the headphone jack, it sucks for those of us with older cars. I have to use an FM transmitter in my 07 Corolla. I got one with 3.5mm input to use with my iPod Classic and iPhone 5 depending on if it's a road trip or just around town.

You could also just not buy the new iPhone. I can't think of anything Apple could add in future iPhones that would make me want one enough to ditch my iPhone 5.
 
Are you being sarcastic? Headphones that I could only use with my iPhone would suck (forget that they're Beats too), but it was a good idea to get rid of the DVD drives in laptops.

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The market could only use Lightning headphones if Apple were to let other companies use Lightning connectors, which they do not. Also, this is a "people thought the airplane would never work" argument.

It was not a good idea to remove optical drives from ALL new laptops (and desktops).

And it should be BDXL.
 
Think different.

How about a cable/adapter that is 3.5 to lightning?
Not ideal but possible.

That wouldn't solve the battery problem, and you'd then have to carry around an adaptor (assuming you even bought a phone with no 3.5mm port). You know what's ideal? The 3.5mm connector. No reason to mess with that unless you're going wireless.

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Is this the end of the headphone jack?

Remember that the headphone jack is used for more than just sound. Some docks use the headphone jack for stabilization since the lightning cable is too thin to support the phone.

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It was not a good idea to remove optical drives from ALL new laptops (and desktops).

And it should be BDXL.

For the desktop: External drives are available for those few who use them. This does NOT mean that I approve of the new iMac design with its mobile components.
For the laptops: Sure, the Blu Ray drive would be great for removing and installing a second hard drive in its slot, but that's it.
 
Not in the slightest. If Apple were to go down that route, it would be a very silly idea.

You mean like silly idea to remove floppy disk or optical drive?
Lets get real for an ipod nano or future iphones to get thinner and with better audio they need to remove 3.5 jack and use lightning
 
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That wouldn't solve the battery problem, and you'd then have to carry around an adaptor (assuming you even bought a phone with no 3.5mm port). You know what's ideal? The 3.5mm connector. No reason to mess with that unless you're going wireless.

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Remember that the headphone jack is used for more than just sound. Some docks use the headphone jack for stabilization since the lightning cable is too thin to support the phone.

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For the desktop: External drives are available for those few who use them. This does NOT mean that I approve of the new iMac design with its mobile components.
For the laptops: Sure, the Blu Ray drive would be great for removing and installing a second hard drive in its slot, but that's it.

That you don't care about having a built in optical drive in a laptop does not mean everybody else agrees with you.

And the requirements of people that can do with wimpy ultra books like the rMBP don't matter to get rid of a whole class of laptops.
 
this makes most sense and was the first thing i thought of when the beats rumours started. even if devices started using thinner versions of audio jacks the port unit itself will require internal space, which is becoming sparse. some headphones today come with two sets of cable, one sporting iphone compatible mic and controls. now they will supply them with 3, or any number required to suit the end user's playback device. i don't see the big worry.

regarding beats, it has become evident apple has big hardware plans – far beyond on-ear music. glass competitor i believe.
 
Guess what, none of this matters to people who really care about audio fidelity. They could care a less about Beats or Apple. If they do care about Apple, it's only how to bypass the internal DAC and get the digital signal into something designed by someone who truly cares about fidelity.

Audiophiles are a crazy bunch and will spend ridiculous amounts of money to get that last 20% of audio perfection. As long as people rely on YouTube and crappy compressed audio for their sources, no matter what Apple comes up with will really make a real difference in audio with the general population.
 
There is already an optical audio combo port on the macbook pros. I wonder why they just don't use that standard already in place.

Apple are starting to irk me these days. I find myself now siding with the EU when they do things like try and mandate a single standard.
 
Goodbye headphone jack. Apple is going to change the game once again! They went to Nano Sim Card, changed to the lighting cable, now getting rid of the headphone jack! BOSS!
 
……….. now they will supply them with 3, or any number required to suit the end user's playback device. i don't see the big worry.
What governments want to do is reduce wastage. Including yet another adaptor does not acomplish this.
 
Headphones with a proprietary port… and they're Beats. I can't think of anything worse.

This whole digital authentication thing on Lightning cables shouldn't even be legal. I've had perfectly legitimate Lightning to USB cables stop charging the phone, stop syncing, or something else. It's like HDCP on HDMI. Glitchy security mechanisms that end up screwing over consumers who play by the rules!

The funny thing is that these new fakes I bought from eBay work better than the "certified" ones from TJMax and such. $8 for 10 of them, indistinguishable from Apple's cables, and working 100% of the time. They even came in the same plastic wrapping that Apple uses. In fact, I was a bit suspicious.
Nope, it is for quality. OI work in a shop and most of third party lighting accessories people come with are crap, even potentially damage devices, totally unreliable. Sadly certification and this security are a good thing because users are usually too stupid and still buy china cable and charger for 5$

Quality is important
 
Be honest, how many of us, on a regular basis, actually use headphones while charging an iDevice? That being said, I hope :apple: doesn't charge an arm and a leg for a lightning to 3.5 adapter.

i do every couple of days actually on my ipad
 
Nope, it is for quality. OI work in a shop and most of third party lighting accessories people come with are crap, even potentially damage devices, totally unreliable. Sadly certification and this security are a good thing because users are usually too stupid and still buy china cable and charger for 5$

Quality is important

All the previous fakes I was using worked fine too and never broke except in one extreme case (slammed in car door and dragged on the road). I just have to avoid the ones that have weird shapes and colors. I do stay away from 120V AC to 5V DC USB adaptors made by sketchy Chinese companies because I won't risk plugging anything that cheap into a wall outlet, but then again, I don't really use those at all.

As a result, I've saved tons of money. If I had bought 20 of Apple's cables instead of cheap ones, I'd have spent more than what I'd spend on an iPod touch.
 
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I honestly hope that they make the connector more robust than on the charging/sync cables. I have at least 4 that no longer work.
 
More interesting than the increase in audio quality is the fact that the headphones will be capable of controlling and interacting with the device.

You can imagine some headphones with a magic-trackpad-kind-of-surface on each ear where you can perform several gestures to launch apps or interact with the active application...
 
That you don't care about having a built in optical drive in a laptop does not mean everybody else agrees with you.

And the requirements of people that can do with wimpy ultra books like the rMBP don't matter to get rid of a whole class of laptops.

Apple had ample market research done. You only need the optical drive in one odd case, where you want to watch HD movies on a laptop without an Internet connection or any way to download and save the video for later. If Apple were to leave the optical drives in, we'd all be carrying around laptops as thick as the 2009 MBP so a few people like you can watch Blu Ray. And Apple can't go against its hugely pre-established way of keeping the number of product types small by adding a new line of MBPs with optical drives.

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More interesting than the increase in audio quality is the fact that the headphones will be capable of controlling and interacting with the device.

You can imagine some headphones with a magic-trackpad-kind-of-surface on each ear where you can perform several gestures to launch apps or interact with the active application...

It could be done with the current connector, which can already play/pause, skip, and change the volume over the extra pair of pins. It's easy to send and receive digital commands over one pair.
 
The market could only use Lightning headphones if Apple were to let other companies use Lightning connectors, which they do not. Also, this is a "people thought the airplane would never work" argument. There should be a word for that.

What ? There are LOTS of accessories that work with lightning connector that are not made by Apple.
 
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