Apple Introduces Teachers to Coding at Summer Workshops

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple today highlighted various app prototypes that educators came up with during five weeklong Teacher Coding Academies it held this summer. The workshops were part of Apple's Community Education Initiative, which introduces coding opportunities to underrepresented communities across the United States.


    Educators from nearly 70 institutions attended the first of these academies in Houston, Austin, Boise, Nashville, and Columbus, according to Apple, presenting prototypes of their apps to various community organizations. Together, the educators and community organizations plan to continue working on the apps.

    Learn more about the educators and their app prototypes on the Apple Newsroom.

    Article Link: Apple Introduces Teachers to Coding at Summer Workshops
  2. DrJohnnyN, Aug 7, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2019
  3. AtikCzaTok macrumors member

    May 10, 2016
  4. NMBob macrumors 6502a

    Sep 18, 2007
    New Mexico
    If I’d have known it was that quick and easy to write software I wouldn’t have worked so hard to figure out how to do it these last 40 years.
  5. itsmilo macrumors 68020


    Sep 15, 2016
    Had to take it for 2 semesters at my university, 5 to actually pass it and I still don’t get it. Coding is one of those things you either get and are passionate about or you don’t get it at all
  6. FontGeek macrumors newbie


    Sep 15, 2018
    Oh the wonders of Swift.
  7. dsampley macrumors 6502


    Jul 2, 2007
    What is the case they are using with the iPad?
  8. MacUser09425 macrumors newbie

    Aug 2, 2019
    Out West
    Exactly! I’m not against these efforts - but Tech companies need graphic designers, UX people, marketing, project managers. You don’t have to be too cynical to think this is all about the $$$$ - there’s resentment that too many white males (and congrats to Asian males - they lump you in too) are making big money writing apps.
  9. Winni macrumors 68040


    Oct 15, 2008
    It might not be popular, but some time last year a scientific study was published that revealed that for various reasons around 2/3 of the human population will never be able to learn how to code, simply because the human brain was not made to deal with the specific kind of abstract logic that is needed to write software -- this way of thinking has no application in "real world" problems and scenarios and thus is basically useless.
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    Oh the wonders of Python.

    Or even modern(!!!) BASIC dialects, for that matter.
  10. kemal macrumors 65816


    Dec 21, 2001
    Everyone can code. But, not everyone can write Swift code that runs on Chromebooks.
  11. Mainsail macrumors 65816

    Sep 19, 2010
    I don't know specifically, but there are tons of cases like these on Amazon that have pencil holders. You can buy them for a variety of iPad sizes. I bought one for my iPad Air 3 for about $15.
  12. NMBob macrumors 6502a

    Sep 18, 2007
    New Mexico
    It helps to be as dumb as a computer. :) I got started on the ground floor in the 70's when you had to have an idea about what was going on under the hood (or bonnet). If I started now it would all just seem like magic, and I probably wouldn't get it, either.
  13. travoose macrumors member


    Oct 31, 2008
    Central PA
    “Computers, just another crazy fad.”

    -Someone in the early 1990s.
  14. thisisnotmyname macrumors 68000


    Oct 22, 2014
    known but velocity indeterminate
    When I see articles like this I'm just reminded how lacking the individuals are that are responsible to prepare the next generation. It's great that these groups actively sought out an expansion to their skills - that alone probably puts them well above the curve of educators as a whole - but it makes me sad we don't have a higher caliber group of people tasked with such an important mission.
  15. miniyou64 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 8, 2008
    I don’t get this obsession with having every industry perfectly represented with exact race and gender demographics. People who are interested in it, follow certain careeer paths. It’s not that complicated.
  16. gplusplus macrumors member


    Mar 5, 2018
    “Coding” on an iDevice. How cute.
  17. harriska2 macrumors 65816


    Mar 16, 2011
    Care to expand?
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    I did basic, pascal, bits of perl, and pl/sql. But python and objective c had me perplexed. The errors weren’t specific enough to help and all the documentation I found never seemed to apply to the specific version I was using.
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    I have a poetic version for my ipp 12.9 1st gen and love it. Mine works with an apple cover.
  18. CarlJ macrumors 68030


    Feb 23, 2004
    San Diego, CA, USA
    The teachers I've met at my nieces primary school have been uniformly great at teaching the grades they're responsible for, though none of them are software developers. Our society doesn't value teachers as highly as it should, given their role in shaping the future of our society - for one, they ought to be paid considerably more than they are (that would attract the higher caliber candidates you want), but we also need to fund schools better than we're doing now - there are thousands of stories out there about teachers having to buy supplies for their classrooms out of their own pocket, because the school can't supply basic needs.

    Teaching is a skill for which one can have (or not have) an aptitude, just as software development is - I think I'd rather have us teach good teachers how to program (knowing that not all will get it), than teach software developers how to teach (I imagine there might be a higher failure rate there).
  19. thisisnotmyname macrumors 68000


    Oct 22, 2014
    known but velocity indeterminate
    I took us off topic and now I'm taking us further afield (sorry mods) but I've thought for some time the pay scale for teachers should allow for differentiation by subject matter. Mainly allow the STEM fields to get closer to market rates teachers could command if they went into private enterprise. I don't mean this as a slight against those teaching in the arts and humanities (personally I work with a lot of creatives who are very skilled in what they do and well paid for it) but typical salaries for an artist who may work in something like graphic design in the private sector would be significantly less than a programming instructor who would otherwise be a developer. The current policies of tying all the salaries to the same scale of tenure and level of education (bachelors/masters/etc...) limit the ability to attract and retain the best resources in areas more in demand in the private sector. This change would likely increase the overall costs for teacher compensation but some of the increase for tech fields would be offset by reductions in other disciplines.

    I agree with you that being proficient in an area and being a good instructor are separate qualities. Not every great programmer would be a good addition to a classroom (again, working with many I'd say the majority wouldn't in my personal experience). I would like the inverse to be true though and today I don't think it is. There's some truth to the old adage "those who can't do, teach." Obviously not universal as people pick a profession for many reasons, compensation being just one, but I do believe what I've laid out above contributes to that. If you have an individual who is adept at teaching and (as you would hope) is very good at the topic they teach, they may often elect to join private industry instead of going into teaching. i.e. if I'm a talented programmer who can also teach and I have the option of taking a teaching position for $40k/year eventually working my way up to $75k after getting an advanced degree and spending many years on the job or I can become a developer starting at $75-80k and working up to an architect at well into six figures, I think many follow the paycheck. Some will be altruistic, some have a passion to inspire young minds, some like having summers off and other schedule perks, but I think pragmatically most with the highest level of ability are going to chase the payday.

    One could make the argument to increase all teacher compensation across the board to address this but I think it's unrealistic to say our programmers/chemists/physicists/etc... can make $150k so we're going to pay our literature and art history teachers that as well. Splitting by discipline makes sense to me.

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