It does not surprise me one bit that most of this crowd is actually opposed to these features.
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Apple Introducing New Child Safety Features, Including Scanning Users' Photo Libraries for Known Sexual Abuse Material
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Yes, there is a need to be rude. Reading comprehension is so basic, and it’s frustrating when people flip out before taking the time to educate themselves. Gotta call out that behavior because it’s seriously warped
How is apple violating your privacy? Did you read how the feature works?
I read the article and still have a concern. It's a slippery slope from identifying hashes in a database to other photos on your iphone, to speeding and detecting drunk driving patterns. (not that that would be a bad thing).
This is really a powerful use of AI to fight child exploitation. If all the devices that kids have access to are running this kind of protection, then it’ll substantially decrease their risk of exposure to malicious actors. Not every child will have an iPhone or iPad. I hope that Google will follow suit so that this kind of protection is universal. It would make a serious dent on child exploitation.
No, the negative comments here are from people who recognize, based on long experience, what happens once the camel’s nose is under the tent!
So a malicious person grabs your phone, downloads a CSAM image onto it, and what happens next? The FBI shows up and you become Jared Fogle's roommate?
did you even read the article? its not "scanning photos" but hashes of known shared child pornography images.
No… only images with hashes in the database will be reported. Not just any image. It’s the only way to do it while respecting privacy, they don’t want to actually scan your photos
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The only people who should be opposed to these specific features are people who are committing crimes, and people who don’t care about the safety of their children.
The article claims that but the author of the article is not the author of the code base. Just because a press release says something doesn’t make it true or accurate.
One of the most basic ML exercises is tricking an image recognition tool into identifying false positives. False positives from telling Siri to set a timer for an hour have no consequence except inconvenience. False positives on this system can potentially lock you out of your iCloud account and get you in trouble with the law.
As long as their false positive rate is zero, I have no problem with this. I’d hate for my childhood photos or medical photos to be flagged. I use iCloud for it’s security here.
Perhaps they’ll only divulge whether any images have been flagged or authorities IF they ask specifically and have a warrant. Fine by me. I don’t see Apple referring people to authorities blindly.
Perhaps they’ll only divulge whether any images have been flagged or authorities IF they ask specifically and have a warrant. Fine by me. I don’t see Apple referring people to authorities blindly.
Hopefully those images aren’t easy to download. And if you knew the link to them, you are a criminal already. Also, that’s why Face ID and passcodes exist
This is a very scary slippery slope. It's hard to say you're against it without people accusing you of supporting child exploration, but it makes it all too easy to take away people's freedom. How long until the picture of the Chinese president looking like Winnie the Pooh makes it in that database at least in China? We already know how eager Timmy is to bend the knee for Xi.
The same thing can happen right now - if they are downloading the image, it had to come from someplace, and that may be monitored.
How about using a strong passcode on your phone?
Other companies like Google and Twitter have been doing pretty much the exact same thing for years...
Still a violation of privacy assuming they do it with images on the phone
Are your childhood photos or medical photos in a database of known illegal photos?
calling it now......
cyber hackers will upload these images on unsuspecting machines and demand bitcoin to unlock files and remove imagery
but seriously, what the hell Apple. Stay out of my phone
How so? They are hashing the photo and looking at the hash, not at the photo.
did you also think the only people who should be opposed to the Patriot act are terrorists?
did you also think the only people who should be opposed to anti misinformation technology are fascist racists and conspiracy theorists?
This is the beginning of the end to any hope that Apple would continue to differentiate themselves as an entity interested in protecting their user’s privacy. No, they don’t monitor our devices for the purposes of selling us stuff like FB, Google, etc.. but they do monitor for the purpose of identifying “good” or “bad” people or actions? Of course, they start with a use case like child abuse, since you’d have to be a monster to argue against it. But this sets a precedent and would begin to normalize monitoring actions for further use cases.
Also I noticed that MacRumors didn’t run anything on this until Apple themselves “previewed” the feature. They’ll repost some rumor on the next round of emoji’s in a matter of minutes, but a topic like this that has been published by FT, The Verge, CNN, and many others they stay quiet on? I can only assume that Apple has worked with publishers like MacRumors to control the messaging on this. There’s nothing that reminds me more of Big Brother, than steps to erode personal privacy, while making sure that they control all communication around that erosion.
This needs to be stopped.
Also I noticed that MacRumors didn’t run anything on this until Apple themselves “previewed” the feature. They’ll repost some rumor on the next round of emoji’s in a matter of minutes, but a topic like this that has been published by FT, The Verge, CNN, and many others they stay quiet on? I can only assume that Apple has worked with publishers like MacRumors to control the messaging on this. There’s nothing that reminds me more of Big Brother, than steps to erode personal privacy, while making sure that they control all communication around that erosion.
This needs to be stopped.
"Think of the children".. the battle cry of those with questionable motives.
That being said, if this ends up rolling out, I'll be dumping ALL my Apple ecosystem.
That being said, if this ends up rolling out, I'll be dumping ALL my Apple ecosystem.