Apple Invites Kaspersky Lab to Consult on OS X Security Issues [Updated: No]

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    [​IMG] reports on comments from the Chief Technology Officer of Russian security firm Kaspersky Lab, who claims that his firm has been invited by Apple to probe security issues on OS X and to assess the platform's vulnerabilities.
    Grebennikov believes that Apple "doesn't pay enough attention to security", citing the Java vulnerability that led to hundreds of thousands of Flashback malware infections. That vulnerability was patched by Oracle before the outbreak, but Apple did not issue its own update to close the hole in time.

    Grebennikov also notes that it is only a matter of time before malware begins showing up on iOS devices, believing that such threats will appear within the next year or so. Apple's "walled garden" approach of restricting application installation to software available through the App Store has allowed the company to minimize such threats for the time being, but Grebennikov argues that malware creators will find their way in and that Apple needs outside security expertise to help manage those threats due to its relative inexperience in the field.

    Update: Kaspersky Lab has provided clarification to Engadget, claiming that Grebennikov's comments were taken out of context and that Apple has not invited Kaspersky to perform any security investigations.
    Kaspersky's analysis is being undertaken at its own initiative, although Apple has reportedly indicated that it is "open to collaborating" on any new issues Kaspersky discovers.

    Article Link: Apple Invites Kaspersky Lab to Consult on OS X Security Issues [Updated: No]
  2. lunarworks macrumors 65816

    Jun 17, 2003
    Toronto, Canada
    Why would a company that sells anti-malware solutions want to help make an OS more secure?
  3. djrod macrumors 65816


    Sep 16, 2008
    Madrid - Spain
    Really vulnerable with less than 5 known threats? :rolleyes:
  4. holmstockd macrumors newbie

    Mar 5, 2010
    I know there are hackers but...

    I always have a suspicious feeling that there AV companies themselves plant viruses to help their cause!

    again I know apple will grow bigger into the consumer and business market and will become MORE of a target... but again I have my suspicions.

    I switched to mac back in 05 and never looked back - so its been a great 7 years of NO AV software and i want it to continue this way.

    can't even trust these AV companions anyway thats to Norton and Sonys root kit.
  5. PurrBall macrumors 65816


    Oct 25, 2007
    I'm sure Apple is paying them handsomely.
  6. CplBadboy macrumors 6502

    Good move by Apple. Macs immunity are well over and Apple like all others have to move with the times for the benefit of their customers.
    All my family now have Sophos installed on their Macs as a precaution.
  7. Varedis macrumors newbie

    Sep 30, 2011
    AKA. Companies that sell anti malware programs :rolleyes:
  8. tonytiger13 macrumors regular

    Jan 9, 2008
    When a program needs a removal tool then you know it's in too deep. Norton would rarely uninstall correctly when I needed to remove it off customer's computers. Many times, it was the cause of them not being able to get on the internet. Talk about security, let's just take you off the web!
  9. Thiemo macrumors member

    Aug 17, 2008
    Vulnerability isn't defined by the number of different threats present but by the susceptibility to any – even hypothetical! – possible threats!

    It's not the number of attackers in front of the city walls! It's the number and size of holes in the walls! The absence of attackers don't negate the holes away!
  10. Sardonick007, May 14, 2012
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    Sardonick007 macrumors regular


    May 18, 2011

    ...Windows is no longer the only game in town and Mac's popularity means we can (anti-virus vendor) have an untapped, virgin market to exploit..err, protect.
    In other news, an apple a day keeps the **** away, mostly.
  11. 3282868 macrumors 603

    Jan 8, 2009

    A while ago I relayed a story on MacRumors about meeting a friends friend who worked in marketing for MacAfee. We were at a wedding talking about our jobs, and I jokingly asked who are all these people that code viruses and how do they make a living to support themselves as it takes a lot of time, are they MacAfee and Norton employees throwing out security breaches to create product demand? We laughed, but he kind of half heartedly chuckled and winked. We got a little quiet at that point :).
  12. mrgraff macrumors 6502a


    Apr 18, 2010
    They'll never run out of PC customers.
  13. Small White Car macrumors G4

    Small White Car

    Aug 29, 2006
    Washington DC
    I'm always a bit confused by phrases like "Mac OS is really vulnerable."

    If this is so, why have most recent Mac exploits come in by way of plug-ins like Java or Flash? (And the rest have been social exploits, not technical ones.)

    I'm not saying Apple doesn't need to work on these problems, I'm just saying that I wouldn't describe that as the "Mac OS" being vulnerable. Rather, it seems to me that the Mac OS is pretty darned secure if exploiters are having to attack it in roundabout ways such as that.

    The Mac and iOS ecosystems are certainly vulnerable and need protecting. But the OS itself seems be doing ok to me.
  14. klamse25 macrumors 6502a


    Oct 25, 2009
  15. Thiemo macrumors member

    Aug 17, 2008
    Ah, why would physicians make their patients stop smoking and eat healthier? It's their job! It's not like they'd run out of work.

    There will always be enough malware out there and maybe consulting pays better than selling the software.
  16. Hastings101 macrumors 68020


    Jun 22, 2010
    I'll take my chances, I'm pretty sure the limited amount of low quality and buggy anti-virus software that is available for OS X is more dangerous than malware would be.
  17. jeffmetanna macrumors member

    Apr 16, 2010
    Bad move Kaspersky. You don't trash your new (and probably the biggest) client's reputation on media like that. This is why you shouldn't let your CTO to do PR. You have your CEO and spokesperson for that job.

    Now Kaspersky is in damage control mode.
  18. Dr McKay macrumors 68040

    Dr McKay

    Aug 11, 2010
    The Deathstar only had 1 Weakness ;)

    Don't say that! You'll invoke the wrath of GGJstudios! :D
  19. guzhogi macrumors 68030


    Aug 31, 2003
    Wherever my feet take me…
    My guess (& I'm in no way an expert): possibly because many of these plug-ins are multi-platform. All you have to do is some minor reprogramming and it'll work on an other OS. If you go to an OS directly, probably requires a lot more coding.
  20. Quu macrumors 68030


    Apr 2, 2007
    Yeah I'm sure the company that spearheaded personal computers and has been making operating systems for what..? 30 years+ is inexperienced.

    I'm pretty sure Apple can easily buy a few security companies if they felt they needed it to beef up OS X's security. I'm sure Kaspersky isn't the only company Apple has asked to probe OS X I'm willing to bet several others have also been asked to do their own analysis and once Apple has their findings they will begin work on implementing fixes.
  21. miniroll32 macrumors 65816


    Mar 28, 2010
    Apple invites Kasperky.

    "Hey dudes - Fancy coming over for a beer and errrr, y'know, telling us how to make OS X securer without your software?"

  22. Thiemo macrumors member

    Aug 17, 2008
    Well, man, they don't even HAVE to write any software to make a truckload of money! Sounds like a very fine business model to me!

    I'd do it too, and secretly hope for a buyout :)
  23. dmcdayton macrumors newbie

    Jan 15, 2008
    Utter BS

    I would not be surprised to find out this is mis-information or perhaps complete BS. If true, has got to be stupidest comments by a new vendor in the history of IT.

    The Apple Ecosystem is eradicating the need for 3rd party active security, Kaspersky knows that so I'm sure they'd say about anything to drum up business.
  24. miniroll32 macrumors 65816


    Mar 28, 2010
    Are we talking about beer or anti-virus software?

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