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Apple iOS 8.0.1 Issues Linked to Maps Debacle, Same Manager Oversaw Both Projects

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laudern said:
Take this article down!!!!!
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This is fascism talk jsyk.
 
This is some Gawker Inc. quality. All that's missing is the comments section speculating on his sex life and insinuating that he's racist, sexist, and/or homophobic.
 
PLOT TWIST:

What if the guy who leaked the name, is the real guy who is in charge of both?
 
Hmm... Don't know how many people Apple will need to flip through to find who talked to Bloomberg...

Apple Employee hired in 2000, Manager over 100+ people in Software QA / Testing... Let me venture a guess that the list will fall somewhere between 1 and 1 and said person despite speaking on condition of anonymity just slit his own throat worse than [Publicly Shamed, Since Redacted Manager] who converted massive numbers of people's shiny new toys into devices that were rendered unusable for 48 hours.
 
I think it's absolutely appalling that this person was called by name. And shame on rumor sites for not withholding his name.
 
We discussed this in the security lapse thread, the need for increased standards and accountability to those standards to kill the lower level issues that will eventually fix the bigger ticket issues. I'm not saying the dude needs to get fired but he's botched two major releases to the public, his skill set and talents should be evaluated for alignment with the standards of Apple employees and either re-train or find someone that more closely aligns with the Apple standards.

Where I work we have high standards and very little margin with the public or oversight agencies. We manage low level trends with higher levels of management to ensure the proper processes and standards are used and adhered to. I think the leadership change at the top has revealed how a nicer more people friendly CEO has allowed standards to drop through all layers of the company. Being an outsider, its difficult to observe how the accountability model is enforced and maintained, but there are gaps and a need for those gaps to be identified and managed better. Apple seems very collaborative and perhaps needs a more directive approach in the short term.
 
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pragmatous said:
Journalism is gathering, processing, and dissemination of news and information related to the news to an audience. The word applies to both the method of inquiring for news and the literary style which is used to disseminate it.

Freedom of the press or freedom of the media is the freedom of communication and expression through mediums including various electronic media and published materials.



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This is fascism talk jsyk.
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You can report on this without naming names. Outing a mid-level employee BY NAME is appauling.
 
pragmatous said:
Hopefully. What a joke. Why aren't the engineers getting the tools required to do their jobs. That reason alone should be enough to fire this manager.
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You'd be surprised how many engineering management positions are filled by unqualified individuals. If you ever seen/read Dilbert, there are real-life equivalents to the Pointy-Haired boss.

I'm was a HW support engineer at a medium-sized computer company and our manager was not the least bit technical. I asked for RHEL SA training and my manager simply asked "What is Red Hat?".

The stories I'm hearing about iPhones not making into test teams doesnt surprise me either. I was expected to support our world-wide customers with no access to hardware, just documentation.

IMHO, the best managers are promoted up through the ranks. The worst are hired in from different fields and think only of $$$, deadlines, and milking their employees for all they're worth.
 
C DM said:
What would that do? Bloomberg already spread it around through much more mainstream means.Seems like this one ended up doing that.
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9to5Mac and Apple Insider are still reporting his name.
 
pragmatous said:
Hopefully. What a joke. Why aren't the engineers getting the tools required to do their jobs. That reason alone should be enough to fire this manager.
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We don't know if he's the reason why employees didn't get the right tools. Maybe he wasn't given the budget, maybe he wasn't given the access to the pre-GA products when he needed to. Just because he's a 'manager' doesn't mean he has the power to make the right decisions. Too much we don't know to draw any conclusions.
 
It's a bit of a reach to point the finger too strongly at a single person. I can't imagine a scenario where his team told him the patch was dead set broken and he then approved it's shipping anyway. Obviously something went wrong, but if one person only was solely responsible then there's a real organisational structure and release review issue there.

As for Maps....that was a cornerstone feature of iOS 6. There's no way that dozens of staff weren't aware of it's state prior to shipping. I have little doubt they took a gamble with Maps that didn't pay off at the time. Siri is arguably another feature released before it was particularly ready for the prime time, the difference being they slapped a beta tag on it. Both services have arguably benefitted from feedback in the end of the day.

Hopefully Apple gets on top of this but. Maps I can excuse, but it is worrying iOS 8 shipped with Health Kit broken, which was a major feature of the iPhone and upcoming iWatch, and then a week later they released 8.0.1 which was even more problematic. No software is perfect, but both cases these were very widespread and seemingly easily reproduced issues for major functions of iOS. Fortunately the ramifications of the Health Kit issue was low...the same can't be said for yesterdays 8.0.1.
 
Apple iOS 8.0.1 Issues Linked to Maps Debacle, Same Manager Oversaw Both Proj...

MacRumors, if what you reported isn't entirely true, the person has every right to start a libel suit against you and you will lose serious money, much more than the clicks you received these days for posting link bait articles. Actually, a lot of negative press to Apple came from your site, I've been visiting MR for few years and this year is the worst one.



(Actually, even if you removed the name, the person is still identifiable by a lot of people and it probably still falls into the definition of defamation. This is not a legal opinion, but I do have a degree in laws.)
 
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It's never about one person with a project as big as maps. Ultimately, Tim was responsible considering it was one of their tentpole features. They should have released maps as beta and kept Google maps for one more year though now I'm glad Apple has its own maps app cos using Google maps now is downright painful...they realy need to do something about that UI.
 
haruhiko said:
MacRumors, if what you reported isn't entirely true, the person has every right to start a libel suit against you and you will lose seriously money, much more than the clicks you received these days for posting link bait articles. Actually, a lot of negative press to Apple came from your site, I've been visiting MR for few years and this year is the worst one.

Actually, even if you removed the name, the person is still identifiable by a lot of people and it probably still falls into the definition of defamation.
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FuzzMunky said:
This is crazy MacRumors. You'll start a witch hunt. Meanwhile, this guy probably wasn't the actual cause of this issue. Just the one in charge, so it's his head which will now roll. He must be very good at his job in other respects if he's been there since 2000.
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Bloomberg reported it, other sites are just essentially riposting the news that is already widely spread by a very large, reputable, and mainstream news organization (and in the case of MacRumors the name has been removed from the article).
 
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This is crazy MacRumors. You'll start a witch hunt. Meanwhile, this guy probably wasn't the actual cause of this issue. Just the one in charge, so it's his head which will now roll. He must be very good at his job in other respects if he's been there since 2000.
 
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