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Apple iOS 8.0.1 Issues Linked to Maps Debacle, Same Manager Oversaw Both Projects
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Pretty poor reporting from Bloomberg and even worse for MR to push the story further. Nothing in the Bloomberg report links him to causing the OTA issue. So there is no evidence but because he worked on maps and now the testing team, then clearly he is the reason why the OTA failed? Wow, that is shameful reporting.
Targeting a non-public, non-executive figure at Apple is different and a new low. This (was) MacRumors, not TrashingPeoplesCareersRumors. The entire story is specious anyway and purely conjecture. One of these silly sites is going to take a legal two-by-four upside the head one of these days before they realize they just can't post whatever it takes to maximize the clicks and ad impressions.
Apparently enough for a news source like Blokmberg to post it. For a rumors site like this one seems that reporting on potential Apple news thst is being spread would be fairly rational. Naming the person isn't needed or calling for any action, but reporting that a large news source is reporting something about Apple and providing some information thst is being reported seems like part of what a site like this is designed to do. As an Apple user and someone interested in Apple developments I would like to hear if some major news source is reporting something and a site I visit regularly updating me about that seems quite reasonable.
This person must be a relative of Jobs to endure such debacle and still has the lateral promotion.
Except this wasn't an Apple or Mac Rumor. It was definitely a name-shame-and-blame a non-public figure story. It is just totally tasteless and baseless journalism too to single out private individuals like this on the thinnest shreds of evidence. There is no, freaking, way a site like MR can possibly ascertain responsibility within an organization like Apple itself for software bugs. I'm sorry, but there is just no way. The whole story seems based on him being on both teams, which is just incredibly weak evidence of anything. Now this guy is going to have to live with this crap coming up on any google search an employer or potential employer does of him in the future. Just a completely **** move and I can't believe people think this is acceptable.
Music to Samsung's ears and its camp.
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If Apple were a Japanese company, this person should commit harakiri.
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If Apple were a Japanese company, this person should commit harakiri.
I want to know if something about Apple is in the news and spreading, this site let me know of that before I found out about it at a later point from somewhere else or someone else. Seems like the site did the job that I was expecting it to do.
A Bloomberg article that lacked quality control
Under a heading of "Quality Control", Bloomberg thought it relevant to write about:
It's fine for the story to be picked up; if not on the front page, a reader would have rushed to post elsewhere in discussions.
Critically: if the front page here had begun with a more factual focus the BRB, maybe much of the backlash might have been avoided.
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and as someone else pointed out,
> To contact the reporter on this story:
> Adam Satariano in San Francisco at asatariano1@bloomberg.net
> To contact the editors responsible for this story:
> Pui-Wing Tam at ptam13@bloomberg.net Reed Stevenson, Ben Livesey
Under a heading of "Quality Control", Bloomberg thought it relevant to write about:
- Eagle Scout
- tattoos
- guitar playing
- the total irrelevance of those three observations should have sounded an alarm bell at MacRumors, before it became front page news here
- MacRumors might have done some good by emphasising that "no single person is solely responsible for large software problems" and by building upon that (e.g. links to existing front page articles).
It's fine for the story to be picked up; if not on the front page, a reader would have rushed to post elsewhere in discussions.
Critically: if the front page here had begun with a more factual focus the BRB, maybe much of the backlash might have been avoided.
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and as someone else pointed out,
> To contact the reporter on this story:
> Adam Satariano in San Francisco at asatariano1@bloomberg.net
> To contact the editors responsible for this story:
> Pui-Wing Tam at ptam13@bloomberg.net Reed Stevenson, Ben Livesey
In general, random individuals' employment and (alleged) job performance really isn't any of your business. Obviously MR disagrees, but that's my opinion.
And I never said it was. Seems like you keep on missing or ignoring the point--I want to know what news related to Apple is spreading, whatever it might be, and a site like this one provides that information letting me know that in this instance some report from Bloomberg is spreading through mainstream news and letting me know what it's about.
Yeah, what you are describing is an automated google news alert for "Apple." I would think MR would regard themselves as a notch above that.
The person responsible is Tim Cook. But sure go ahead and try to pass blame to some low-level guy in order to make yourselves feel good about yet another screw-up at Apple.
The vast majority of MR articles are simply repetitions of something they read elsewhere, so if the original source makes a mistake in judgment, it gets repeated here.
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They might regard themselves as being above that, but for what good reason?
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But if you have the freedom to do something, then you must do it.
Are we done yet?
Some of the posts on here are absurd! Having worked in small and fortune 500 companies; it's never just ONE person's fault. Huge projects like the iPhone involve many people at different levels and guess what people make mistakes. Going as far as to call out a single QA manager, who may or may not be responsible for the snafu, is EXTREMELY unprofessional. I really hope that karma bites their source in the butt big time. I would hire him over the douche who leaked his name to the press any day of the week.
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Yup. I chalk this up to "left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing" due to secrecy. It makes QC much, much more difficult.
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A line was crossed here tonight. You should be embarrassed for yourselves, professionally and personally.
I'm done here.
Bloomberg's tweet, hours after its shamefully poor 'news' item
Four hours after publication and after receiving a string of 'shame on Bloomberg' comments in response to that publication:
https://twitter.com/BloombergNews/status/515363930622140416
Four hours after publication and after receiving a string of 'shame on Bloomberg' comments in response to that publication:
https://twitter.com/BloombergNews/status/515363930622140416
Convenient that every time apple has a mistake of this proportion something leaks that suggests it was one person's fault. Really, to me this sounds like Apple trying to control stock. Saying it was one person's fault, firing that person and then making it seem like they are infallible. In reality apple is just making mistakes. As they become more and more corporate big brother they will keep cutting corners and making more mistakes just like their competitors. Who is this? The 3rd guy to get fired for one of the 'gates' issues over the past few years? I smell bigger issues at Apple and it's all about controlling stock and and image as if they couldn't make mistakes.
In software management, there is a sliding scale between trusting your team and micromanagement, with a correlated scale of software delivery speed (if holding quality constant). Hire A+ level devs and QA and you can move that scale towards trust and ultimately speedy delivery, if quality is held constant.
I imagine Steve Jobs was more of a micromanager, but squeezed out speed via fear and long long hours.
Macrumors should be ashamed
Arn, Juli Clover and whoever else at Macrumors had a part in putting together this "story" should be ashamed.
Between this article (which is nothing more than a rumor built upon a rumor) and the recent flood of horribly racist threads and comments that have been allowed to litter the forums, I see little reason to continue visiting this site.
Arn, Juli Clover and whoever else at Macrumors had a part in putting together this "story" should be ashamed.
Between this article (which is nothing more than a rumor built upon a rumor) and the recent flood of horribly racist threads and comments that have been allowed to litter the forums, I see little reason to continue visiting this site.
I'm seeing only a link to the original Bloomberg article. What are you seeing here?
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Sadly you may be right. Pointing out the low standards of what passes for writing and reporting here doesn't seem to change anything for the better.
Just a thought, that Bloomberg could have refrained from tweeting – considering the string of 'shame on Bloomberg' comments that began – at the Bloomberg site – hours earlier.