I'm not sure what you mean by this. How has their quality gotten worse every year?
I think the more pertinent question would be what does his statement have to do with this thread?
I'm not sure what you mean by this. How has their quality gotten worse every year?
I only have 1,000 shares of apple stock. How many does everyone else have? I am just concerned with apple products quality going downhill. They have been getting worse every year they grow.
I think the more pertinent question would be what does his statement have to do with this thread?
I'm not sure what you mean by this. How has their quality gotten worse every year?
I think the more pertinent question would be what does his statement have to do with this thread?
If this does in fact happen and Apple creates a new physical model without wifi then that kind of punches a hole in peoples arguments that Apple would not create another model with a CDMA radio in it.
Think about the call quality the iphones had in the past with gsm since the beginning. With the 3GS its gotten alot better just barely and it took 3 generations to iron it out. If they put CDMA in they would have to do alot of testing beforehand before throwing anything out. Wifi I think can be taken out or blocked software-wise more easily without much effort.If this does in fact happen and Apple creates a new physical model without wifi then that kind of punches a hole in peoples arguments that Apple would not create another model with a CDMA radio in it.
I was responding to a question asked to me in the thread. I guess I should just be quiet.
Who cares???
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I only have 1,000 shares of apple stock. How many does everyone else have? I am just concerned with apple products quality going downhill. They have been getting worse every year they grow.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. How has their quality gotten worse every year?
I think the more pertinent question would be what does his statement have to do with this thread?
If this does in fact happen and Apple creates a new physical model without wifi then that kind of punches a hole in peoples arguments that Apple would not create another model with a CDMA radio in it.
I only have 1,000 shares of apple stock. How many does everyone else have? I am just concerned with apple products quality going downhill. They have been getting worse every year they grow.
650,000,000 Chinese cell phone subscribers probably care.
1,400,000,000 Chinese on the move towards increased quality of life may care.
Apple stockholders care.
Talk about a narrow, provincial perspective![]()
What the hell are you talking about.
1. Apple products are better now than they were 20 years ago.
2. Apple products are better now than they were 10 years ago.
3. Apple products are better now then they were 5 years ago.
Need I continue.
If you're asking for stock advise here, then I recommend that you sell now.
The entire thread starting from your original post makes no sense.
It didn't make any sense from the word go. Sorry. No one is saying you should be quiet just that your post doesn't seem to apply, unless you aren't spelling out what you are thinking adequately.
Also, no offense but what are you guys doing to the computers in your lab? No hardware is perfect but the track record of machines by people you work with is horrible. Either you guys have the worst luck ever or you use your computers like this:
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You can't judge a computer's quality from the experience of a few users. The fact is simple, if your examples were prevalent in Apple's products then they would be out of business.
You actually prove my point with your lame picture (I love the movie). These computers are in lab almost everyday and are treated pretty good and yet they still break. I know my experience is limited to about 50-60 macs in the last 10 years but it seems to me, again just my opinion, that the newer ones are not built as good as the old ones. That is all.
As far as the point: I was simply stating that selling more iphones does not necessarily mean better things for the end user. People always point to an increase in sales as a great thing for the average apple consumer and I simply wanted to state I do not agree. Someone pointed me to a post that stated that exactly. Thats all. No reason to get pissed. Everyone on here is so touchy.
Disagreeing with you does not mean we are touchy. The problem with your analysis is that you think that you consider the results from your 50 computers to be an adequate sampling from which to judge the quality of Apple computers over the last 10 years as a whole. I'm simply pointing out that this is absolutely ridiculous. Apple sells around 10 million Macs a year. If your experience were the norm and we extrapolated that out to the Mac sales as a whole then Apple would have gone belly up years ago. The fact is that their computers ARE high quality. In fact, I consider the new unibody MBPs to be the BEST laptop Apple has EVER made.
I've been using a Mac since 1988 and I have used personally and seen in action many many computers. I'm not denying that your G3 is a great computer. I still have a G4 that is running strong. But to say that the new models are of crappy quality based on just the ones in your lab is ridiculous. I have a 2007 17" MBP that I use every day. I lug it from home, to my office, to the classroom, to meetings, every single day. Back and forth. In the bag and out of the bag. Constantly. And it is like new. The reason I posted that picture is because in my head that's how I'm picturing you and your colleagues using your machines. I'm not saying that stuff doesn't break on its own but you guys either have the worst luck or you have some abusive users.
Either way, you are not the norm and Apple products are of high quality. They are consistently rated as the most reliable in independent consumer reports, by magazines reviews, etc.
So, sorry about your bad luck but it isn't happening overall.
why no wi-fi
Nice post, but I do want to point out that this is your opinion. Just like my statement was my opinion. I think the sampling is a fair assessment for ME the end user. In reference to your statement about we have bad luck or have abusive users is just stupid. It shows your bias to apple. It appears that there is NO WAY a apple computer could be built incorrectly. Guess what I have the track record to prove it.
India is very similar cell phone market, huge by numbers. However, Apple managed to sell a total of 11000 iphones there. Not 11 million, 11 thousand.
So who cares?
No, this based on using and owning Macs since Apple II in the early 80's, combined with the general public opinion of Apple's products.I guess I would say continue. What are you basing this belief on? The two computers you are using or apple's press release?
Do you actually think that removing Wi-Fi from the phone is equivalent to changing the radio frequency chip and updating the programing that goes along with that?
The point is, all of the naysayers loved to say that Apple would NEVER make a physically different model of the iPhone. Wifi most likely will be physically removed because if it was blocked by software it would be very easy to circumvent like most other software restrictions Apple has made, which people just jailbroke to get around.
So Ill say once again, if this is a physically different model (physically removing wifi) then this proves wrong all the people who swore that Apple would never make CDMA iPhone because it would be PHYSICALLY DIFFERENT from its current GSM counterpart.
So just like Americans with AT&T and Canadians with Rogers, Chinese can get screwed by Unicom. Niiice.
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