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Apple iPhone Integration and a Media Device? (Patents)

jimN said:
You're right, adding a 'page 3' would definitely increase traffic - sure all the UK residents will back me up on this one. Although having said that it normally only takes a couple of prime shots of macs with shells off to get the average forum poster's juices flowing!

For more information on third page stories check out The Sun newspaper - welcome to a world beyond apple.
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absolutely. i'd "read" it.. ;)

it would, however, have more to do with melons than apples... :D :rolleyes:
 
what's so bad about a good mp3 player/phone?

I carry both a phone and an mp3 player around with me all the time already, and I'd rather have both in 1 package, so I'd buy one for sure.
Yeah, I can get something like that already, but they aren't half as nice as something Apple could do, aesthetically or functionally.
 
Japan....

(L) said:
hmmm? An Apple phone? Won't hit big here in Japan anyway...
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You got that right, L. Japan is flooded with new cell phone models every other week. Although my friend has the new AU phone W41H by Hitachi. The digital TV reception is awesome.
 
MacQuest said:
How's the iPod doing over there? I know that there were a lot of other portable music players available there before it...

I'm actually just wondering, because I remember hearing the reports of Sony being extremely upset with the iPod/iTunes success over their Walkman/Sony Connect music service in their own country.

Looks like Apple pulled a reverse Pearl Harbor on Sony in the portable music player amd accompanying service market.
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Up to about a year and a half to two years ago, you could see a couple white ear buds here and there on the trains, but mostly everyone had MD players. Since then the sightings have increased dramatically. I think it was the iPod Mini that set the iPod revolution in motion here. As (L) said above, Sony's purple thing ain't cutting it with the masses. Japanese are very fashion-conscience, and right now iPod is cool.

I have a friend who is very fashionable, yet she never really cares about technology. She once said to me "I don't see what's the big deal with iPods. My MD player works just fine." Then she got a 5g iPod for Christmas from her boyfriend, and couldn't stop showing it to all her friends: "Look what I got! This is so cool! It can hold ALL my CD's, and it can show pictures and play videos!"

I told her I was happy for her, but I was silently wishing my 3g 15gig iPod would die soon so I can get a new one.
 
MrCrowbar said:
I'd love to have an apple phone. Although I am a technocrat, I don't like modern phones because of their inteface. I love the old nokias for the simple menus, but the newer models tend to have a much too complicated interface (for a phone).

Apple has always managed to make great and simple intefraces for complex mashines. If there wasn't text messagong and writing notes into a calendar, a clickwheel would be perfect for dialing (like the old phones you see in retirement castles with dialing wheels). With a touchscreen however, possibilities are endless, especially when it has multitouch (you could type with 2 thumbs like most advanced cell phone users do). I'd love a full screen iPod with some kind of front row on it (replace DVD by Phone in the main menu). AutoSync with iCal, iTunes, iCal, iPhoto and AdressBook would make it perfect.
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Yes, this is exactly what I was referring to. The touchscreen in combination with advancements such as the scroll wheel that appears where you touch the screen, etc. could enable a lot of functionality in a phone.

It would have all the capabilities of an iPod with fullscreen video, do all the phone stuff, sync info from your computer (many phones already can), and have some PDA-level functionality. Depending on resolution of the screen, it basically does the majority of what people wanted from an Apple tablet.

I'm not saying this is likely or probably. Just considering the possibilities. People that post on this thread just to say "Apple would NEVER do this" are sort of missing the point. A rumor story was posted, we're just speculating on the possibilities.

The same people argued against the Shuffle and Nano for similar reasons. When Apple introduces new products, they are typically totally against people's expectations. Because the products that people are expecting are typically already available.
 
BRLawyer said:
I am happy to have a simple, bare-bones Siemens A60 with me...just a color screen, SMS, GPRS/WAP capability (never used) and agenda for names and phones...that's what people need, along with good network coverage...

I am tired of listening to this "all-you-can-cram" crap...people don't have time to learn how to use new, complicated gadgets...I couldn't care less about Java games, complex sync operations with computers and the like...and at least 3/4 of the mobile consumers wouldn't either...

Apple, I truly hope you DON'T launch yet another mobile phone in this babel tower of markets...it's a stillborn and stupid idea.
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Did it ever dawn on you that Apple would be the ideal company to develop a smartphone that actually provided a great user experience along with the functionality?

And second, most people gravitate towards more feature-packed phones. People love taking photos, sending to one another, texting, etc...Apple can change the experience as iLife and iTunes did for the desktop. But don't worry, there will always be a bare-boned model for you to buy.
 
BRLawyer said:
No, my point is: everyone else has these features and sells them for nothing...Apple should NOT enter this loss-making market, because it has no room for high margins or great innovation...at most, it will a monstrosity with easier iTunes access and click wheel...I prefer to stick to my iPod, thanks...cell phones should be simple, and Apple IS about simplicity...too bad the mobile market doesn't follow the same orientation.
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The phones are available for low-cost to consumers, AFTER they sign a contract. But that doesn't mean Motorola is making phones and giving them away for free.

I'm not saying Apple should or shouldn't make phones. But your argument about it being a 'loss-making market' makes no sense.

It is a competitive market, however. Just taking a typical phone and slapping an Apple logo on it would do nothing for anyone, including Apple.
 
boncellis said:
Regarding the click wheel integration with a mobile phone, Nokia came out with something similar as a replacement for the numeric keypad. I don't know how it was received, the reviews I read included words like "interesting" and "different" which is often code for unnecessary, or worse, impractical.
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A scrolling type input method for dialing phone numbers makes no sense. A scroll wheel is great for analog control (like volume control), or for large number of selections (like picking artists and songs.)

If Apple came out with a phone device, there's no way it would use a physical scroll wheel like the iPod.
 
xUKHCx said:
the picture is the really really old mock up of a sony ericsson (iirc) definately a fake.
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look closer:

SOMETHING BORROWED
Apple makes great computers. Sony Ericsson makes great mobile phones-phones that have set the standard for stress-free syncing with your Mac. That's why you'll find trusted Sony Ericsson technology driving the new iPhone. This time, Apple didn't reinvent the wheel, it just added(cutoff)
 
also note:

SOMETHING BLUE
Bluetooth wireless communication is now standard across the entire Apple range, built into every desktop, laptop, and even the iPod. This means that while you talk to your family and friends, the iPhone can talk to your computer, as well as automatically sync your contacts, iCal,(cutoff)
 
CarlosG said:
Don't know if anyone has put two and two together in this way already, but what about a phone that natively connects through VoIP.
Think iPod. Apple saw that there was a market for a portable MP3 player, et voila.
VoIP is taking off due to cheap/free worldwide phone calls. Why not have a phone that acts like a standard house phone, but connects through VoIP? I know I'd buy one.
Just a thought...
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Or a phone that connects to your VoIP service inside your house and a cell network outside? Like some other services, you could even have you home calls redirected to the phone.
 
ingenious said:
Or a phone that connects to your VoIP service inside your house and a cell network outside? Like some other services, you could even have you home calls redirected to the phone.
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I don't think it could be Wifi only, as that would seriously reduce its utility. But it would be nice to have cellular and Wifi, I think there are some out there...
 
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