Apple iPhone Out, BlackBerry 8800 In At NASA

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by johnee, Aug 1, 2007.

  1. johnee macrumors 6502a



  2. plumbingandtech macrumors 68000

    Jun 20, 2007
    I really hope the people at NASA have more sense then to buy into their Garbage De Jour.

    I fear for our space program if they do.
  3. ctango macrumors member


    Feb 28, 2006

    I'm more concerned that a government sponsored program is so hush hush about their decisions. It should be public information as to what information led them to that decision. If they don't say, then for all we know it could just be this guy's opinion of Apple that caused him to say "no".
  4. GTiPhone macrumors regular

    Jul 22, 2007
    Island Heights, NJ
  5. johnee thread starter macrumors 6502a


    You're worried the space program is in trouble because they're not buying the iphone? a bit strange, please expand.

    I agree with you on this point. actually i'm more pessimistic than you, I'm starting to wonder if there are kickbacks from RIM for the decision.
    I highly doubt that's true, but it's a valid postulate given their move.
  6. earnjam macrumors 6502a


    Jun 7, 2007
    North Carolina
    So they can invent comfortable mattresses.
  7. diamond.g macrumors 603


    Mar 20, 2007
    hmm, you think NASA is the only government sponsored prgram that is hush hush about things???
  8. plumbingandtech macrumors 68000

    Jun 20, 2007
    it was snark.
  9. earnjam macrumors 6502a


    Jun 7, 2007
    North Carolina
    is that like a snuke?
  10. plumbingandtech macrumors 68000

    Jun 20, 2007
    It's like bejewelled on the iphone!

    (which I got 5000 points on yesterday. is that good?):eek::D
  11. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus


    Jan 9, 2004
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    Usually, even if the details of the specific decision are closed, the details of the government *purchasing* process (multi-source RFQs, etc) are not. But I think you have a fair point, in that the government can be more efficient (and also add value to the private sector) by publishing their findings so that others can take advantage of them.

    In any event, this is Blackberry vs iPhone for a corporate environment... it's not like they went and chose some weird random startup. RIM has an excellent history of catering very carefully to this kind of market. They've gone out of their way in all kinds of ways -- well-thought-out security policies, encryption, offering models with no cameras, etc. -- to woo IT managers.
  12. bmustaf macrumors regular

    Jul 6, 2007
    Telluride, CO
    I love my iPhone as much as anyone, but why is it so hard for all the iPhone diehards to admit it is NOT an Enterprise device? It can't do OTA calendaring with Apples own .Mac, let alone Exchange and Notes. It can't do bcc, it can't do sophistcated folder support. It CAN be a great multimedia convergence device which is why I have one, but it never set out to be a corporate warrior's sidearm -- and even insinuating it could play in that space is comparing apples to oranges and is probably not at all in sync with the requirements, needs, and usage patterns of the corporate market.

    So, the article is kind of lame, why is it trying to compare the iPhone to a phone not even in the same market?

    Maybe in 6-12 months when tried and true solutions come out to fill these gaps the iPhone can play in this space, but until then the iPhone IS NOT a BlackBerry (and a BlackBerry is NOT an iPhone)...

  13. johnee thread starter macrumors 6502a



    honestly, I was very surprised they even considered it, let alone investigate potential use.
  14. Maui macrumors 6502a


    May 18, 2007
    Agreed. I currently carry an 8800 for work and my iPhone for personal use. The 8800 is very tightly integrated with Exchange. Until/unless the iPhone does that (Jobs has hinted they are working on it), I will stick with the 8800.

    It is a bit odd, I must say, to go back and forth between the iPhone keyboard and the 8800 keyboard, though.
  15. toomer macrumors newbie

    Jul 20, 2007
    Most likely, this all came down to something as simple as the remote-data-wipe capabilities that RIM has had in their platform for years. A few simple keystrokes, and you can completely destroy a device in the field that has been lost or stolen. Given that NASA employees may actually have sensitive information on their mobile devices - it's probably a bare minimum requirement to be considered.

    Which the iPhone does not have.

    Doesn't surprise me at all. Good thing my employer has no similar requirements...
  16. odHbo macrumors member

    Jun 5, 2007
    Why do people think the iPhone is set to be the be-all-end-all phone? It's great but it's not going to replace everything. :rolleyes:
  17. acrafton macrumors 6502

    Jan 18, 2006

    NASA = Welfare for middle-class, college educated white people.
  18. defeated macrumors regular

    Feb 22, 2007
    Im glad NASA is promoting economical solutions. lol

    people, its a not like the whole world need to use iphone.
  19. TXCraig macrumors 6502a


    Jul 2, 2007
    Houston, TX
    The iPhone at this point in time is not really a business device like a Blackberry is. In fact, I would be real suprised to see the iPhone be the corportate device of choice for any government or large / public company besides Apple.

    I can't see any large orginazation packaging and deploying iTunes to all the orginizations for emplyee use! What a crazy thing that would be.

    Right now, the iPhone can't update cal or contact info over the air like a BlackBerry can. Until this happens you will not see any large company move over.

    Many compaines have invested a lot of money in Blackberry gateway servers and they are very secure. Not available with the iPhone yet.

    You might also consider the federal government might take the heat for using your tax dollars to deply iPods to its employees... the iPhone is a iPod.

    People have to realize that at this time- the iPhone is NOT competing with corporate blackberry use. Its not there and may never be. I don't think Apple has ever marketed the iPhone that way. Its just some people have it stuck in their head that the iPhone will be a replacment for every phone / device out there... I don't think so.
  20. kdarling macrumors demi-god


    Jun 9, 2007
    First university coding class = 47 years ago
    You're right. It probably means that someone on the committee had one, and so they stuck it on the list :)

    Besides, they can save taxpayer's money up front, by going with subsidized phones.

    Not to mention, no doubt needing to put custom applications onboard.
  21. madagi macrumors member

    May 6, 2005
    Hanover, PA
    If the 8800 is anything like the 8100, they can have it. My 8100 was a P.O.S. (Yes, I know it's the full QWERTY version of the 8100)
  22. gauchogolfer macrumors 603


    Jan 28, 2005
    American Riviera
    At the defense contractor where I work, iPhones are not yet approved for official business use. The main hurdles are security/encryption, as well as integration with Notes/Exchange servers. There are several people that own them, but they still maintain an official employer-provided phone as well.

    I think that the two applications are so far apart at this time that it really doesn't make sense to compare them. Apples to oranges, really.
  23. severe macrumors 6502a

    May 23, 2007
    No kidding. I like to see them cutting that budget a bit.
    Love reading about the billions spent on that program, while I'm stepping over a homeless person in the city. :rolleyes:
  24. -hh macrumors 68020


    Jul 17, 2001
    NJ Highlands, Earth
    Look at the calendar: the iPhone was released on Friday 29 June, yet they reached their fully staffed 'conclusion' on 10 July, which due to the 4th of July holiday, was only 6 business days. Absolutely NOTHING ever moves that fast in a large buerocratic organization except for things that are being given the lip service brush off.

    I find this interesting, for as little as 12 months ago, our IT's were still literally destructively crushing our BB's that had accidentally gotten 'naughty' data on them. Its only been within the past 6 months that they've gone to triple brainwipe.

    Agreed. This is the v1.0 product and consumers will be the demonstration testbed to give industry a chance to look & test. We do have to remember that before 29 June, there was effectively zero hard information for most businesses to even consider starting their product suitability reviews with.

    Their next excuse will be the lack of a supported CAC sled, but they are bluetooth sleds available now that could probably be used.

    Yeah, imagine that: because they so want to keep using Blackberries, they'll willing to allow the CAC validation protocols to be transferred over a wireless connection! Talk about a "sucking chest wound" sized security hole.

  25. Maui macrumors 6502a


    May 18, 2007
    While I agree the iPhone is not ready for a corporate environment (see my post above), I disagree with this statement. The Blackberry line gained its popularity without having wireless synch of the calendar or contacts. I had a Blackberry for 5 years before they came out with this function. It's the ability to deal with Exchange email that will drive, or not drive, this.

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