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fearless said:
Apple Australia are the culprits here. Renaissance can be quite aggressive when pushed but Apple Australia controls their line of supply, and as we know they're a dozy bunch at best

Excellent, always good to be able to blame the Aussies, damn underarm bowlers that they are! :D
 
nargot said:
Yep, i've posted this before. The last ipod promo coincided with both powerbook/ibook/ipod upgrades either before, during or just after

I've only been watching since July last year. Can you add any detail to what you have said like when did that promo take place, what form it took etc?
 
mvc said:
Thanks for that, that's good, and I'm glad my iBook would be covered, but its the G5 I want to buy thats gonna be the fly in the ointment.

I'm not certain about this, but I believe that if you purchase a G5 in the US, then buy AppleCare from an NZ reseller, the warranty will work here. In fact, buying AppleCare will make the warranty work anywhere.

I remember about a year ago, AppleCare was about half the price it is now :(
 
Actually this promo is nice but its a bit of a farce because really they are only compensating partially for the exchange rate issue that has been around all year and has now hit the mainstream media. Its good to see but I suspect its either a shortterm fix before price rerationalisation OR hopefully as others have said, a patch until the new machines come and bring with them price updates more in line with what we should be paying. At least Apple NZ and some independants are doign this. Can't figure out why Apple Australia isn't - at leats I can't find anything but free engraving on their website...
 
aswitcher said:
I've only been watching since July last year. Can you add any detail to what you have said like when did that promo take place, what form it took etc?

education computer and ipod purchases, when both bought you were eligible for a $300 rebate if purchased between 1 August and 30 September, 200.
 
aswitcher said:
Actually this promo is nice but its a bit of a farce because really they are only compensating partially for the exchange rate issue that has been around all year and has now hit the mainstream media. Its good to see but I suspect its either a shortterm fix before price rerationalisation OR hopefully as others have said, a patch until the new machines come and bring with them price updates more in line with what we should be paying. At least Apple NZ and some independants are doign this. Can't figure out why Apple Australia isn't - at leats I can't find anything but free engraving on their website...

As mentioned in a previous post, one independent apple retailer is offering the same deal. I totally agree that this 'deal' is to try and smooth over the obvious price hikes in our region.

On a more reliable note, i have been told by my apple dealer whom i am getting a g4 ibook from in a few days that these deals are likely to shift stock for one reason or another. They do not have any idea about updates themselves.
 
nargot said:
education computer and ipod purchases, when both bought you were eligible for a $300 rebate if purchased between 1 August and 30 September, 200.

Ok, thanks. Well I guess I have to decide what to do since I want a PowerBook but am holding off for a) reasonable prices b) new model C) both. This is tempting because a 20 gig was what I was planning to get as well...
Mmm. Hopefully ThinkSecret will post something soonish...
 
aswitcher said:
Ok, thanks. Well I guess I have to decide what to do since I want a PowerBook but am holding off for a) reasonable prices b) new model C) both. This is tempting because a 20 gig was what I was planning to get as well...
Mmm. Hopefully ThinkSecret will post something soonish...

Well if you are desperate like me for a machine and want an ipod, then it would be a good deal. I personally have an ipod and only need an ibook. I've got a gut feeling that something will happen in a few weeks as per the last ipod/computer bundle deal, where every mac line was updated or dropped in price as i remember. But they are just vicious rumors that i spread :)... i'm gona have to start a macrumors.com.au to satisfy my thirst for faster (ie we are 10 hours ahead of usa) rumors :p
 
aswitcher said:
Ok, thanks. Well I guess I have to decide what to do since I want a PowerBook but am holding off for a) reasonable prices b) new model C) both. This is tempting because a 20 gig was what I was planning to get as well...
Mmm. Hopefully ThinkSecret will post something soonish...

I'm in the same boat as you.

As an aside, its interesting to note that the iPod is the only thing in the Apple Australia range that has a price remotely like the US price.
Ipod 20gb US$399 = Aust$530 ish
Apple Australia price = Aust$598
 
Nermal said:
I'm not certain about this, but I believe that if you purchase a G5 in the US, then buy AppleCare from an NZ reseller, the warranty will work here. In fact, buying AppleCare will make the warranty work anywhere.

I remember about a year ago, AppleCare was about half the price it is now :(

Nope Sorry this doesn't work for Desktops.
Only Portables
 
Bigheadache said:
I'm in the same boat as you.

As an aside, its interesting to note that the iPod is the only thing in the Apple Australia range that has a price remotely like the US price.
Ipod 20gb US$399 = Aust$530 ish
Apple Australia price = Aust$598

Thats correct, we now wonder if the ipod mini will be fairly priced by Apple Australia... they would be mad not to as importing an ipod mini would be easy. Oh i just got it, 20gb ipod are being offloaded because of the 15gb versions more competitive price and the onset of the mini.
 
rdowns said:
Cheapest is not the correct term to use in the same sentence as Apple. As a marketing type, might I suggest "most affordable".

I don't care about marketing hype, this is a mac forum with tons of information that the average consumer is unaware of. Can we agree that the next rev. of the powerbooks will the "most affordable" ones ever, with the given information that I listed in the previous post.

Tyler
 
TyleRomeo said:
I don't care about marketing hype, this is a mac forum with tons of information that the average consumer is unaware of. Can we agree that the next rev. of the powerbooks will the "most affordable" ones ever, with the given information that I listed in the previous post.

Tyler

No question about that, we all believe that we are being screwed over with same high prices while the AUD has risen to approx 75 US cents.

Eg
Stock Apple 12" ibook costs $1899 AUD from apple.com.au cf. %1099 USD from apple.com ($1459.69 AUD calculated by x-rates.com)

Now where has that $550 gone??? thats the question, its nothing about the affordability
 
nargot said:
No question about that, we all believe that we are being screwed over with same high prices while the AUD has risen to approx 75 US cents.

Eg
Stock Apple 12" ibook costs $1899 AUD from apple.com.au cf. %1099 USD from apple.com ($1459.69 AUD calculated by x-rates.com)

Now where has that $550 gone??? thats the question, its nothing about the affordability

As stated in my previous post: Apple Aust & Renaissance buy currency in Bulk plus have you counted Shipping you know its not free to ship across the world/ then there is admin costs when it lands. Plus I also Renaissance do have to add a little bit so they can advertise run Roadshows.. I can go on and on... Its called business.
Sometimes there is a bit left over thats why/how they can do promo's like this. lets start a poll for Asia/Pacific Region on weather they think pricing is fair
 
appleguy said:
As stated in my previous post: Apple Aust & Renaissance buy currency in Bulk plus have you counted Shipping you know its not free to ship across the world/ then there is admin costs when it lands. Plus I also Renaissance do have to add a little bit so they can advertise run Roadshows.. I can go on and on... Its called business.
Sometimes there is a bit left over thats why/how they can do promo's like this. lets start a poll for Asia/Pacific Region on weather they think pricing is fair

Sounds good, i could go on and on about the otehr side.. but would prove nothing more than my view. I think a poll would be a good idea
 
appleguy said:
SNIP
Sometimes there is a bit left over thats why/how they can do promo's like this. lets start a poll for Asia/Pacific Region on weather they think pricing is fair

I think the poll is a forgone conclusion but a head count of annoyed wouldbe mac customers would be nice - those waiting for things to get better before buying.
 
appleguy said:
As stated in my previous post: Apple Aust & Renaissance buy currency in Bulk plus have you counted Shipping you know its not free to ship across the world/ then there is admin costs when it lands. Plus I also Renaissance do have to add a little bit so they can advertise run Roadshows.. I can go on and on... Its called business.
Sometimes there is a bit left over thats why/how they can do promo's like this. lets start a poll for Asia/Pacific Region on weather they think pricing is fair

Actually, most stuff ships from Quanta in Taiwan & China so it should be CHEAPER or at least comparable to ship it to NZ or Australia.

Things in NZ & Aust are always going to be a little more expensive that in the US to account for GST and different distribution networks. But there should not be 30% differences, as per Nargot's example with the Ibook.

Other examples in Aust I can think of:
G5 dual 2ghz Aust RRP AUD$5200
US price US$3000 approx (equivalent Aust AUD$4000)

Diff AUD$1200

PB15 Superdrive Aust RRP AUD$4799
US price US$2599 (equivalent Aust $3500 approx)

Diff AUD$1300
I am using AUD$1= USD$0.75

You call it "business", I call it "blatant rip off".
 
Well I might end up taking advantage of this iPod deal. I'm considering getting a 15" PB, plus an iPod, that's $4323. This works out quite well because I need a new portable player since my CD player's just died, and it looks like the 3rd-party display on my $4649 Power Mac is on its last legs, so I can replace the computer, display, and CD player all in one go :)
 
Nermal said:
Well I might end up taking advantage of this iPod deal. I'm considering getting a 15" PB, plus an iPod, that's $4323. This works out quite well because I need a new portable player since my CD player's just died, and it looks like the 3rd-party display on my $4649 Power Mac is on its last legs, so I can replace the computer, display, and CD player all in one go :)

Well congrats, trust me the ipod is well worth it. Had mine for 4 months now and it has been on 50 hours a weeks... on the plus side my ibook is being sent on monday, so woohoo and i'll get over the prices... but i'm not sold on the price difference. I'll still buy apple, i'll probably get an ipod mini as well, but unless the prices become reasonable apple in australia is still going to suffer to the 'dell' menace for way cheaper machine (at least half the price... no joke) and bad service :)
 
Bigheadache said:
You call it "business", I call it "blatant rip off".

Swings and roundabouts, the yanks get cheaper Apple kit, we get to live in the best countries in the world, NZ and Oz. If you want cheaper Macs move to the USA ;)

Cheers, Edward.
 
eddyg said:
Swings and roundabouts, the yanks get cheaper Apple kit, we get to live in the best countries in the world, NZ and Oz. If you want cheaper Macs move to the USA ;)

Cheers, Edward.

:confused:
Yeah... thanks for the insightful advice
 
eddyg said:
Swings and roundabouts, the yanks get cheaper Apple kit, we get to live in the best countries in the world, NZ and Oz. If you want cheaper Macs move to the USA ;)

Cheers, Edward.

The Apple $99 iPod promotion wtih Powerbooks is clearly a sign Apple recognise they are overpriced but rather than drop the powerbook price they are using this as a stop gap until either the exchange rate settles down so they can reprice or they release new machines with new prices. ts also possible that powerbook sales are slow and maybe even the 20gig now the 15 has entered the market...time will perhaps tell
 
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