Middling said:Buried in the framework of OS X Lion's iChat, are two new properties (highlighted below):The "timeDelivered" and "timeRead' fields indicate the tracking of delivery and read receipts for instant messages. These features, however, are not supported in any of iChat's native messaging protocols,
You are mistaken. XMPP has had such features since 2002 (XEP-0022), replaced now by XEP-0184 as jtara says.
This could be no more than Apple trying to fill in the blanks in their standards support, though it would be nice to have a universal app handling video/audio chat and texts across Linux, Mac OS X, Windows, Android and iOS.
I don't see Apple providing the solution though, especially as they've yet to fulfil their promise of publishing the specs to Facetime that they made when it was first showcased more than a year ago.
Woooowwwww there.....
But as far as Apple has officially said, there is no way to send iMessages to or from non-iOS devices such as your Mac.
Someone please tell me Apple is not about to drop support for the industry standard SMS system that has worked perfectly fine for years and years and is turning it into an inbuilt proprietary system that won't let you text other non iOS people, unless you download an app 🙄
I seriously hope they aren't 😡
What are you talking about? There is no sign that iMessage will replace sms. These two can work perfectly alongside each other.Woooowwwww there.....
But as far as Apple has officially said, there is no way to send iMessages to or from non-iOS devices such as your Mac.
Someone please tell me Apple is not about to drop support for the industry standard SMS system that has worked perfectly fine for years and years and is turning it into an inbuilt proprietary system that won't let you text other non iOS people, unless you download an app 🙄
I seriously hope they aren't 😡
for the people who use iChat, this would be much better, since it would just integrate into their existing buddy lists and workflow.
So, how will this work with the iChat buddy list? As this point, iMessage doesn't have an "online" or "offline" state, does it? Are all of your iMessage using contacts just perpetually listed as online?
I had assumed that this issue was why Facetime is a separate app.
While they're at it, I'd love to see Apple make an iMessage app for Android.
Seriously.
Woooowwwww there.....
But as far as Apple has officially said, there is no way to send iMessages to or from non-iOS devices such as your Mac.
Someone please tell me Apple is not about to drop support for the industry standard SMS system that has worked perfectly fine for years and years and is turning it into an inbuilt proprietary system that won't let you text other non iOS people, unless you download an app 🙄
I seriously hope they aren't 😡
Why have two apps to start with? If I am messaging/chatting with someone why should I switch apps if we decide to switch to video. iChat has had video for years and no one was complaining, in fact it still does work really well, better than FaceTime IMO. I was kind of surprised they made FaceTime a separate app when they did and not just make it an account you can add in iChat.
The only difference to me that I can still recognize as a valid excuse for not fully integrating is that FaceTime and iMessage, unlike tradition IM clients, are meant to be always connected (like a phone) as oppose to a service where you are only available if you are signed in.
Woooowwwww there.....
But as far as Apple has officially said, there is no way to send iMessages to or from non-iOS devices such as your Mac.
Someone please tell me Apple is not about to drop support for the industry standard SMS system that has worked perfectly fine for years and years and is turning it into an inbuilt proprietary system that won't let you text other non iOS people, unless you download an app 🙄
I seriously hope they aren't 😡
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I hope Apple opens up the iMessage protocol at some point. It would be nice to have it in Adium and Pidgin too. Of course, Apple said over a year ago that they'd open FaceTime, but that still hasn't happened yet...
hope its available for snow leopard
No, they did not say that - the closest they said about that subject that they would be submitting it. They haven't done that either.Apple said in the iPhone 4 keynote that FaceTime would be open source tomorrow. So they are over a year late now. 😱
It's already that way:I hope they also update iChat into more of a system service (sort of like the FaceTime app). That way you don't have to explicitly launch iChat to get messages.
They already have.Actually I'd suggest that the carriers will catch on, and quite quickly too. They'll reduce the texting plans and try and recoup the money by increasing the cost of the data plans.