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I really don't think Apple would've gone into this product space without factoring in the chance that they would sell through their binned A18 Pros. Off the top of my head, my guess is that they factored in two things:

1) They likely priced the model assuming a certain percentage of these would end up being newly manufactured chips. For example, if a binned A18 Pro cost them $0, it costs $40 to produce one in 2026, and they assume the lifetime sales on the Neo may incur around 20% of the models to have produced chips, they can build that into the initial price, then take their chances of that 20% shifting One Direction or the other.

2) (this is the more important thing for Apple): The majority of Apple's profits are now from services. For every MacBook Neo sold, they are more than likely locking someone into their ecosystem and services, especially if their first time Mac buyers. From Apple's profit perspective, a MacBook Neo is just an entry fee into using Apple's services, and ideally getting someone to buy additional Apple hardware, such as an iPhone or an iPad.

While I don't think Apple does everything right, I doubt they are having any kind of "dilemma" here. I'm sure they would have considered this possibility, then factored into their plans. This might even be the reason they waited so long to do something like this, they may have wanted to work out a long-term strategy for this product category.
 
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Why create these panic articles? Apple’s goal wasn’t to create high margin on this product, but to capture more interest for MacOS users to help people invest within the ecosystem. Apple will not run out of binned chips. Let’s allow Apple to release a public statement rather than build forum speculation. There will be plenty of inventory once supply meets demand. Near holiday season these will sell out again, but plenty of inventory will be available. Everyone isn’t rushing out to buy a Neo if there are options of MacBook Air and MacBook Pro. People are willing to spend the extra to get more features and performance for long term use.
 
Okay, but regardless of binned or not (maybe they disable one core whether it’s defective or not), it’s plausible that the fab run from which these chips were produced concluded sometime last year, and Apple expected it to be enough for the Neo 1 production, but underestimated its success. In consequence, the stated dilemma arises of whether to order a new run (more costly) or to run out of Neo 1s before the Neo 2 launches.

The first part of the story about wafers etched in early 2025 is plausible, but the whole waiting until November 2025 to package and know the full test results of those chips is not plausible.

Why would Apple wait until November to know the full count of functional chips for a brand new product launch?

We knew back in June 2025 (Kuo) that Neo would be A18 Pro with 5-7 million units. So this is not some last minute decision to use A18 Pro.

To put it simply and without disrespecting MacRumors posters, but even posters here recognized a $599 MacBook would be extremely popular. But Apple was caught surprised and now faces a dilemma?
 
This shows again that Apple lost sight of what users want. They should have predicted the demand.
Underlines that they only want to sell their old parts and don’t care about users being price-conscious. On the other hand they over-produce iPhone Air and will do the same with Fold/Ultra and forget about the current economy which leads people to be more concerned about the prices of devices.
They have what’s known as a good problem. I’m sure they expected high demand but this looks like a smashing success.
 
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Maybe we'll start to see some units unbinned then - presumably the 512 GB ones.

Not that it will make a massive difference and those who have the binned version shouldn't feel short changed because the 'upgrade' will be so minor.

Amazing it's been such a success - but why wouldn't it? It blows any comparable PC out of the water at these two price points.

And has anyone here used Windows 11 lately?

It makes the furure over Liquid Glass seem like a storm in a tea cup.

Windows 11 is the poster child for bad UX.
They can just block one core on chips with 6 valid GPU. This is stored in OTP, so nobody would know.
 
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Or just ship them with unbinned chips. They sure have some leftovers there as well. Customers wouldn't complain I guess.
 
this is unironically fascinating; I love to see the success the Neo has already become. patiently awaiting their overtaking of AirPods on college campuses as an everyday sight. I get the feeling Steve would be delighted.
 
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This is such a fake, made up story.

You literally see the date code on the Neo’s A18 Pro as 2545, meaning November 2025. These chips were made well after iPhone 16 Pro ended production.

So, no these are not “binned” or leftover chips. The A18 for Neo are brand new.


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That's because the chip package includes the RAM and they wouldn't have added the RAM to the binned chips until they were ready to use them - just because they didn't finish assembling the chip package until November 2025 doesn't mean that the 3nm chip inside the package wasn't made at TSMC much earlier.
 
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For those of us who remember how long the Titanium PowerBook G4 had been out before they replaced it with the Aluminium models….

…this is not an issue.
 
Would be a problem if they didn’t have a higher priced item ready to sell to users who can’t get the lower priced product right?

The whole supply and demand curve means that people would pay more for a product the lower the supply is. So the upsell is already there.

Not a problem. Sounds like a marketing flex tbh.
 
I really don't think Apple would've gone into this product space without factoring in the chance that they would sell through their binned A18 Pros. Off the top of my head, my guess is that they factored in two things:

1) They likely priced the model assuming a certain percentage of these would end up being newly manufactured chips. For example, if a binned A18 Pro cost them $0, it costs $40 to produce one in 2026, and they assume the lifetime sales on the Neo may incur around 20% of the models to have produced chips, they can build that into the initial price, then take their chances of that 20% shifting One Direction or the other.

2) (this is the more important thing for Apple): The majority of Apple's profits are now from services. For every MacBook Neo sold, they are more than likely locking someone into their ecosystem and services, especially if their first time Mac buyers. From Apple's profit perspective, a MacBook Neo is just an entry fee into using Apple's services, and ideally getting someone to buy additional Apple hardware, such as an iPhone or an iPad.

While I don't think Apple does everything right, I doubt they are having any kind of "dilemma" here. I'm sure they would have considered this possibility, then factored into their plans. This might even be the reason they waited so long to do something like this, they may have wanted to work out a long-term strategy for this product category.

Agree with much of this.

We knew from the start it was going to be $599. Digitimes reported on this back in August 2025. Apple certainly knew this. (Techies who didn't understand it inflated the rumors to $799 and specs to 16GB.)

At $599, how could it not be a hit? Yet, we are to believe Apple was caught flat footed about Neo's success? From day one, Apple would have built into their plans the Neo would use fresh chips and costs associated with it.
 
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They can just use the iPhone 17 binned chips then right? I'm sure there is a pile up.
iPhone 17 binned chips went in the iPhone 17e. Ultimately it sounds like their plan is to use binned chips from the 17 Pros (i.e. binned A19 Pros) in the next generation MB Neo, but the timeline for that is early 2027, so what will they do in the mean time?
 
That's because the chip package includes the RAM and they wouldn't have added the RAM to the binned chips until they were ready to use them - just because they didn't finish assembling the chip package until November 2025 doesn't mean that the 3nm chip inside the package wasn't made at TSMC much earlier.

The problem is explaining why Apple waited so long to package and fully test the A18 Pro wafers. You don't know the full count of chips until the wafers have been cut and encapsulated because those steps further reduce yield. Why would Apple wait so long to do that?

The simplest explanation is these chips are brand new chips made for Neo.
 
They could have done this over the years why is this even a thing to do now?
Putting phone chips in a laptop with leftovers i get but why now?
Engineering alone takes time to design.
 
Apple made the first generation Studio Display with left over iPhone 11 parts, A chip, camera, etc. The M1 chip had a binned version with a 7 core GPU. That is why they were all used in base models.

No surprise that Apple used left over parts to make the Neo. Boo-hoo, so they have to take a cut on their profit margins. They make enough from iPhones.

This reminds me of the Power Mac G4 when they could not get 500MHz CPUs from Motorola, so they changed the line up from 400, 450, and 500 to 350, 400, and 450, and still charged the same prices for the slower Macs!
 
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